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re: Iranian foreign minister confirms they caved

Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32241 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

killed the Ayatollah


And the next hundred in line to succeed him
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22895 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:14 pm to
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the status quo of 5 weeks ago


Well, a little over 5 weeks ago, Iran had an air force and a navy with a seasoned leadership contingent which included a veteran spiritual leader. They even had police stations, IRGC compounds underground, and a citizenry living in fear.

That has completely changed.

Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
4097 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:15 pm to
MAGA mouthpiece tells me we caved. That dude is only good at lying.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16369 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:19 pm to
It's not going to last.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:31 pm to
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It's not going to last.


Israel doesn't want it, so they will make sure it doesn't last...
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29730 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:32 pm to
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So what was the point of all this? I’m genuinely asking because I’m having a hard time not being pissed about this ceasefire


Trump gave the European Union and hostile European countries who have been trying to sabotage the US a reprieve but allowing energy to head back their way. It was a direct shot at all
Of these countries for defying the US for years on Iran and allowing them to do whatever they wanted. Now they know they can’t frick with the US any longer. Also creates a transactional alliance of sorts with Latin & South America with China in tow.

You just witnessed a massive global geopolitical shift with the US firmly in control.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12284 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:32 pm to
Eric strikes again!!!
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10330 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:33 pm to
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So we are getting an open Straight of Hormuz like we had before we lit billions on fire and lost 6 soldiers? So what was the point of all this? I’m genuinely asking because I’m having a hard time not being pissed about this ceasefire


The point of it all was our military got pantsed thinking they could keep the strait open with the Navy and the Air Force.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91431 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:41 pm to
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and lost 6 soldiers?
People sign up for the military, man.

I simply don’t understand how the above is any type of point to be made.

I’d love to completely maximize the safety of every American in every imaginable situation one can even face. But people die. Especially people who sign up for the military. HUNDREDS of soldiers die each year during training. Should we stop training?


Folks, please be mature and recognize that I’m not attempting to downplay the loss of life.

Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91431 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:43 pm to
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The point of it all was our military got pantsed thinking they could keep the strait open with the Navy and the Air Force.
Is the military execution and showing in general not wildly impressive? What do you mean they got pantsed?
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
21455 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:45 pm to
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The point of all of this has always been quite clear: Iran can never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.


Yeahhh, they were sooooo close so many times.

Shut up, Bibi
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90049 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:47 pm to
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For one, we killed the Ayatollah and severely decapitated Iranian military in 35 days


we took out multiple tiers of their religious, military and civilian leadership

we destroyed their navy, air force and they spent most of their missiles

we defeated their air defenses in days

now the mission of toppling the regime from the inside can begin
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37493 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:47 pm to
In fact we just allowed Iran to essentially say that they own the straight.



Winning
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10330 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:48 pm to
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Is the military execution and showing in general not wildly impressive? What do you mean they got pantsed?


We stopped a war 5 weeks in because we couldn’t keep a strait open with our military.

They won, we lost. They’ll rebuild everything and now have permanent leverage.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28019 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:49 pm to
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So we are getting an open Straight of Hormuz like we had before we lit billions on fire and lost 6 soldiers?


Yes.

Do you think we attacked Iran over an open Strait of Hormuz?
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90049 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:49 pm to
iran can say what they want

that is how propaganda works
Posted by Scottysd20
Member since Aug 2024
69 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:50 pm to
Everything stays the same except that now Iran knows what it takes to fight the US. And they get to keep their uranium and keep their missiles? But they caved? Stop brother, you’re embarrassing yourself.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55729 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:53 pm to
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So we are getting an open Straight of Hormuz like we had before we lit billions on fire and lost 6 soldiers?

So what was the point of all this? I’m genuinely asking because I’m having a hard time not being pissed about this ceasefire


If I was going to make a brief summary.....I think Trump 2.0 signaled to Iran while I'm in office the FAFO Doctrine will be in effect.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20237 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:53 pm to
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Only a master deal maker could achieve the status quo of 5 weeks ago in exchange for accomplishing nothing of value and turning his country into a global pariah.


If you are truly dumb enough to believe this nothing told to you could be understood by you.

Sad…
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90049 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:54 pm to
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We stopped a war 5 weeks in because we couldn’t keep a strait open with our military. They won, we lost. They’ll rebuild everything and now have permanent leverage.


the strait was always open, it has to be de-mined to be truly safe and for goods to be insurable

that will be a stipulation, de-mining the strait and not allowing it to be mined again

there are hundreds of drone mines tethered to the sea floor, if iran refuses to allow them to be permanently removed then back to bombing them we go
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