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re: Iran wants war reparations to reopen the strait

Posted on 8/10/26 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
1679 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 3:04 pm to
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Look at this guy backing the Mullahs. Holy shite. Yall are legit insane.


The policies you support give them power. You want to make them even more extreme? Keep attacking them.

And if they don't support them, then people like you will just claim they are backing the enemy and call them insane.

Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
30270 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 3:05 pm to
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The US only gets a fraction of their oil from the ME.


Ok. And?
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
1106 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 4:46 pm to
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Look at this guy backing the Mullahs. Holy shite. Yall are legit insane.


He actually believes Iran is winning the war because the leaders of Iran are demanding reparations when it is blatantly obvious to everyone with a brain that the real reason the leaders of Iran are demanding reparations is to make it appear to their supporters in Iran that they are winning the war.
This post was edited on 8/10/26 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
1106 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 4:53 pm to
This video explains why the USA is winning the war better than I can.

This post was edited on 8/10/26 at 4:55 pm
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
1679 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:02 pm to
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He actually believes Iran is winning the war because the leaders of Iran are demanding reparations when it is blatantly obvious to everyone with a brain that the real reason the leaders of Iran are demanding reparations is to make it appear to their supporters in Iran that they are winning the war.


No, I understand the difference between being an invader and a liberator.

A liberator is highly likely to succeed.

An invader is highly like to fail.

You think things like "put boots on the ground" is just about making a call. What you don't understand is the Iran has about the worst terrain in the world when it comes to being an invader. Much worse than Afghanistan even. It's full of mountains and our tanks can't even shoot up that high, while at the same time exposing their weakest points.

We spent all those years in Afghanistan and failed. Could not accomplish the goal and the Taliban stayed there. In better terrain and conditions, with trillions of dollars of support and boots on the ground. Didn't matter. Because we were invaders, not liberators.

Same thing with Iraq. Easier in every way, turned out a failure.

And yet now you suddenly believe we're going to defeat a country that has the population of Iraq and Afganistan combined, the worst terrain and conditions out of all of them, AND a direct link to Russia which can't be blockaded if they decide to get involved further in response to us proxy warring with them in Ukraine.

We have a military more than capable of defending ourselves from any country in the world. But we do not have a military or the resources to go invade countries and keep them invaded. Unless you plan to enslave the entire population and taking over their resources to pay for it.

Iran isn't trying to take us over, their conditions for winning are much lower.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
69858 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:11 pm to
Miscalculation of epic proportions. It's astonishing that Trump stepped in it
so readily., even though I don't expect much forethought from him in most cases.

and Hegseth is so clearly incompetent, we're lucky that there hasn't been a greater catastrophe...
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31433 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:21 pm to
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I would imagine there’s much more geographic benefit to the island than simply the chip factories.


You would be wrong.


You can't possibly believe the only geopolitical value Taiwan has to China is its chip-making ability. However, if you do then you might want to take a seat during geopolitical discussions.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
16045 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:22 pm to
The old people believes I ran propaganda like some idiot.

Iran is defeated totally. - Trump will look like a genius in a few months
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31433 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:26 pm to
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The US only gets a fraction of their oil from the ME.


Ok. And?


People seem to forget that oil is a global commodity, and more importantly, oil is inelastic on both the supply and demand side.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23358 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:34 pm to
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China is inferring the US isn’t going to save Taiwan in a prolonged combat outside of providing munitions.
We'd destroy China's POS navy before they left port you fricking dumb arse.
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
1106 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:58 pm to
Don't act like all Iranians support the present government because there are millions of Iranians in Iran who want the Iranian government to be overthrown.

Also, you apparently don't have the mental capacity to realize the Iranian government will lie to its own people who do presently support them in order to stay in power. That's why they will make it appear that Iran is winning the war by demanding reparations from the USA.

The Iranian government is just conning its own people not winning the war.

Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
1679 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 6:24 pm to
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Don't act like all Iranians support the present government because there are millions of Iranians in Iran who want the Iranian government to be overthrown.


So, basically the same as America where people would cheer if some country attacked us, killed Trump(or Biden) and so forth?

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Also, you apparently don't have the mental capacity to realize the Iranian government will lie to its own people who do presently support them in order to stay in power.


So basically, the same as in America, the only difference is you have a suspension of belief about America and you don't about Iran?

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That's why they will make it appear that Iran is winning the war by demanding reparations from the USA.


So basically the same as America since the straight has been opened like 20 times, we've killed their military 20 times and they have nothing and they really want to negotiate and so on.

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The Iranian government is just conning its own people not winning the war.


So basically, the same as America where we waste America resources on a lost cause for a nation that isn't a threat to us outside its ability to sell oil in a currency other than the US dollar but is a great way for the MIC and others to profit and a last ditch effort to save the Petro dollar?



Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
1106 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:15 pm to
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Don't act like all Iranians support the present government because there are millions of Iranians in Iran who want the Iranian government to be overthrown.


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So, basically the same as America where people would cheer if some country attacked us, killed Trump(or Biden) and so forth?


At least the US government doesn't murder 53,000 of its own citizens when they protest the US government in the streets.

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Also, you apparently don't have the mental capacity to realize the Iranian government will lie to its own people who do presently support them in order to stay in power.


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So basically, the same as in America, the only difference is you have a suspension of belief about America and you don't about Iran?


We had an election in 2024 and the people chose our leaders so if you don't like what the new leaders are doing you can elect new ones in the next election.

Also, you should watch more independent news sources not the propaganda the MSM spits out. Have you ever watched Tousi TV?




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That's why they will make it appear that Iran is winning the war by demanding reparations from the USA.


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So basically the same as America since the straight has been opened like 20 times, we've killed their military 20 times and they have nothing and they really want to negotiate and so on.


First, it's spelled, "strait" not "straight". If you can't even take the time to learn how to spell strait correctly you come off looking ignorant which you apparently are.

I don't need any propagandists on MSM to tell me who is winning the war. I can see who is winning with my own eyes and it's the USA. As the Rolling Stones once said, "Time is on my side".

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The Iranian government is just conning its own people not winning the war.



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So basically, the same as America where we waste America resources on a lost cause for a nation that isn't a threat to us outside its ability to sell oil in a currency other than the US dollar but is a great way for the MIC and others to profit and a last ditch effort to save the Petro dollar?


In 50 years, unlike you, your capitalist grandchildren will be thanking Trump and his supporters for saving them from nuclear annihilation by the Iranian government.
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
2790 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:45 pm to
Trump just needs to send in the Marines to take Kharg Island and turn it into a mini military base and shut it down or start selling the oil and keeping the profits. Unless it is booby trapped.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
176037 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:47 pm to
There are rarely easy solutions to complex problems. If Trump saw an easy way out of this he would have exercised that option long ago.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2751 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:21 pm to
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China is inferring the US isn’t going to save Taiwan in a prolonged combat outside of providing munitions


This position by the OP is already in the clubhouse for the dumbest post in this room in August and I’m not sure anyone can catch it. But many will try.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2751 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:23 pm to
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The Iranian government is just conning its own people


And apparently about 35% of the idiots who post here
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
176037 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:37 pm to
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This position by the OP is already in the clubhouse for the dumbest post in this room in August and I’m not sure anyone can catch it. But many will try.

You might be curious to know Pete Hegseths views on a theoretical war with the Chinese in the South China sea. His conclusion is that we lose it very quickly. Warfare had changed. We aren't in the world war 2 era anymore
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2751 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:45 pm to
Nope. OP is still low in the clubhouse.

I don’t think you can catch him Powerman. But your “Iran can bring the global economy to its knees through control of the strait” is still in the annual race.

I don’t think you can catch him because you’re more anti American than dumb.
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