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re: Iran says peace proposal includes reparations for war damage, US troop withdrawal.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:09 am to HubbaBubba
Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:09 am to HubbaBubba
We are going to wind up.paying them. Then the question will be whether we could have just paid them up front and avoided the lives, money, political goodwill and economic stability thrown away by attacking them in the first place?
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:10 am to boosiebadazz
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They’re playing better hand than they were six months ago
They’re under embargo and dumping oil into the sea because they have no place to store it.
Eventually their economy will collapse because they’re only seeing a fraction of the oil sales they need to prop everything up.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:16 am to udtiger
How will using nukes open the Strait or protect the Saudi East-West pipeline?
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:07 pm to Mo Jeaux
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It’s almost as if they actually do hold some cards.
No, it isn't like that at all.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:08 pm to ManBearSharkReb
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They know the war is deeply unpopular and Trump has destroyed much of the coalition that got him elected.
You are drastically overestimating what you believe to be true.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:08 pm to HubbaBubba
Nope
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:12 pm to Captain Rumbeard
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They're not really leaving him much choice
Much choice? To do what?
Continue the air strikes that weren’t forcing them to the table?
Invade before the primaries?
Let the west walk straight into an energy crisis driven by continued missile threats to the strait of Hormuz?
We’re stuck in a corner currently where because the mullahs don’t care if their people starve we’ve already shown we can’t defeat them using air and naval power alone so they have the leverage and we have very little.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:14 pm to teke184
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Eventually their economy will collapse because they’re only seeing a fraction of the oil sales they need to prop everything up.
But the people running the army over there are wackjob religious extremists who don’t care about that at all and know they can wait it out because they have the guns and we have elections coming up.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:15 pm to BobBoucher
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Who said anything about surrendering? They won’t. Ever.
I’m just talking about delivering the message.
So what exactly do you think that accomplishes?
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:18 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:Sounds like Trump needs to "arrange" for a different Iranian leadership team.
Deputy Foreign Minister Kazem Gharibabadi
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:19 pm to Chuck Barris
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Ask yourselves: Are these the negotiating points of a nation with "no cards," or the negotiating points of a nation that thinks they have the upper hand?
Looks like a nation that is totally delusional and always has been since they were taken over by radical goons.
Looking forward to bridge and power plant day!!!
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:21 pm to HubbaBubba
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Tell Saudi Arabia, "we didn't sell you those fighter jets to sit there and do nothing. We softened them up. There's nothing left. Deliver the kill shots, yourselves."
Some of you are so delusional
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:26 pm to HubbaBubba
Diplomacy. How long?
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:27 pm to Powerman
Powerman and dallastiger11,
What are your thoughts on the argument put forward by some folks who initially opposed Iran conflict but now argue that, since the cat is out of the bag, the best decision is to rip off the bandaid.
Argument goes something like this.
“I didn’t want to escalate things with Iran. But the decision was made and we have to finish the job”
What are your thoughts on the argument put forward by some folks who initially opposed Iran conflict but now argue that, since the cat is out of the bag, the best decision is to rip off the bandaid.
Argument goes something like this.
“I didn’t want to escalate things with Iran. But the decision was made and we have to finish the job”
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