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re: Iran Has Allowed The First Western Ship To Pass Through The Strait Of Hormuz
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:25 pm to tadman
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:25 pm to tadman
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We have a fundamental problem with the Europeans. We feel close to them as something like 80pct of us have european roots and live a quasi-european culture.
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Yet the vast majority of white/euro people here in the state left europe because they didn't like how things were going and wanted something better. We rejected the kings and nobility and establishment and economics in search of a place with more opportunity and better rule of law.
This isn't discussed enough in my opinion. This country was founded by men who largely believed we should arrange ourselves to stay out of global conflict, which at the time was Euro-centric, no matter where the war occurred. We need to ask ourselves if our political framework is compatible with being a global empire whose operations span every continent in the world.
The problem is we have structured our economy and the US dollar in such a way that outright withdrawal is not a option. We've built a house of cards and we're trying to survive a tornado of change.
My biggest issue with this whole operation is not that we are attacking Iran. They've been asking for it for some time. But please tell me why the execution of this operation seems haphazard at best? We're blowing up bridges in Iran that aren't even fully-constructed yet? Destroying civilian infrastructure that firmly places us in war crimes territory. We're just galvanizing resistance to anything we try to do there. The whole thing is a mess.
Then to make matters more interesting, shitcanning much of your senior brass right before a potential ground invasion? Is Trump, a person with no experience in war-fighting, going to be drawing up battle plans?
This post was edited on 4/3/26 at 1:35 pm
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 3:24 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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The U.S. still spends the most in total, but that’s also because we choose to maintain global military dominance, not just defend Europe.And that won’t change whether we are part of NATO or not.
The 2% targets are anemic. And it will take a decade for even that to be effective.
The US is doing more for Europe than defending it. We are also keeping the whole world safe for them to trade.
And your last point was simply an insult so my stands untouched about the reason for secrecy.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 3:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And why are people shitting on Europe when we are the ones who went rogue without discussing this war with Europe?
You're not supposed to ask questions like this here.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 3:34 pm to LuckyTiger
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First Western Ship
So now France is western and not an Islamic? Let me know when a UAE ship goes through.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 3:35 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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Because they’re nationalist knuckle draggers who believe the end of NATO would be a good thing for the US.
Just for curiosity saying what would happen if the US withdrew from NATO
Posted on 4/3/26 at 3:45 pm to LuckyTiger
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Iran Has Allowed The First Western Ship To Pass
It’s wild there wasn’t a plan for taking control of the Straight.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 3:49 pm to LuckyTiger
Israel isn’t our ally either. We gotta leave Iran and let Iran wipe Israel off the map.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 4:04 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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Putin is one of only a few self-righteous militant expansionists in the modern world
Without the ability to "expand" completely into Ukraine...right next door. But hey...Tomorrow...the world.
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Also some of the Eastern European countries near Russia spend a higher % GDP on defense than we do.
Now. When did they start to do that?
Some? You mean Poland. I believe that's the only one with a higher % of GDP spending. (Taking out Ukraine for obvious reasons).
Posted on 4/3/26 at 4:53 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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We spend a ton on the defense of Israel, but none of you complain about that.
How much do you think we spend on Israel annually?
We spend @ 75 billion annually in EU foreign aid ( not counting the spike of Ukraine aid the has been @200 billion)
Israel gets @4 billion, mostly in equipment, F-35s, Iron Dome, missiles etc. probably spiked to @ 6 billion this past year.
To put in perspective, Minnesota fraud was over 9 billion.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 5:02 pm to beachdude
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Without the sacrifice of hundreds of thousands of American men, they’d all be speaking German.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 5:07 pm to tadman
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We have a fundamental problem with the Europeans.
Actually, they hate their unelected government just as much as we do.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 5:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And the war with Iran is globalism that Europe is opposing, FWIW
Wrong. FWIW.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 5:32 pm to LuckyTiger
What we are witnessing is the global cleaving of the world’s economies into two primary groups based on energy use.
Those that move forward as a green economies (alternative energy, climate taxes, carbon credits) ….. think WEF-aligned countries.
The other group is aligned with petroleum for the foreseeable future. They will continue to exploit traditional oil, coal and gas development and provide cheap and abundant energy products …. economic prosperity is at the end of this managed transition.
Trump knows this …. and he is trying to move the US away from the green energy WEF team, to the traditional, less expensive petro team.
Those that move forward as a green economies (alternative energy, climate taxes, carbon credits) ….. think WEF-aligned countries.
The other group is aligned with petroleum for the foreseeable future. They will continue to exploit traditional oil, coal and gas development and provide cheap and abundant energy products …. economic prosperity is at the end of this managed transition.
Trump knows this …. and he is trying to move the US away from the green energy WEF team, to the traditional, less expensive petro team.
This post was edited on 4/3/26 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 4/3/26 at 5:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we are the ones who went rogue without discussing this war with Europe
Exactly. It's Trump and Israel and this crazy military campaign against the whole wide world. And thank heavens that Europe determined it's not in their best interest (and our best interest) to allow their economies to tank.
Impeach Trump, now
Posted on 4/5/26 at 8:17 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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Putin is one of only a few self-righteous militant expansionists in the modern world. Netanyahu is another.
How is Netanyahu an expansionist? Given that in literally the entire modern life of the country they have been invaded repeatedly by an enemy that surrounds them and swears to completely annihilate Israel and destroy America.... it seems reasonable that they have taken enough new territory to property defend themselvees and since 1867, never taken more... you can't exactly paint an expansionist picture here. Occasionally bombing the Iranians that constantly torture Israel is not expansion.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 8:18 pm to LuckyTiger
Big dick Emanuelle
Posted on 4/5/26 at 8:23 pm to tadman
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How is Netanyahu an expansionist?
If you have to ask this question you don't know enough about the topic to add anything to the conversation. Why do you think he thanked Trump in his first term for Golan Heights?
I'll give you a hint - it is Syrian territory occupied by Israel. They have very aggressive expansion ambitions. The whole war with Iran is the Iranians and their proxies were one of the few remaining checks against their expansion. They're using this situation to attempt to occupy more land that does not reside in their current borders and redefine borders. If this is new information to you, you need to do more research on what the greater Israel project is. This isn't something that all Israelis support but it's something that Bibi is all about.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 8:25 pm to LuckyTiger
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These European douchebags are not our allies.
We need regime change in Europe.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:24 am to Powerman
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How is Netanyahu an expansionist?
If you have to ask this question you don't know enough about the topic to add anything to the conversation. Why do you think he thanked Trump in his first term for Golan Heights?
I'll give you a hint - it is Syrian territory occupied by Israel.
Youre delusional. Who actually would want the Golan Heights? As I mentioned above it was captured in 1967 in the war wherein Syria attacked Israel for the second time in 20 years. It is a desert area of maybe 700 square miles that produces a few barrels of oil and wine each year.
Now if you were an expansionist, wouldn't you want the oil territories nearby? Ports and harbors? Economic powerhouses?
Good luck in your delusion.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:28 am to RolltidePA
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Currently we seem closer in philosophy and economically with Japan, South Korea and Eastern Europe. Western Europe has embraced socialism, mass migration and globalism while showing a longstanding willingness to sell out the provider of a good portion of their defenses. I don't think we can fully abandon them, but our relationship seems destined to be more distant.
We? Half of our nation are just like these wacky euros
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