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re: Interesting facts about slavery I'll bet you didn't know.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:36 am to coachcrisp
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:36 am to coachcrisp
In an odd twist, bringing slaves to America was a phase of them being freed. Had they been held in Africa, they might still be enslaved
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:37 am to nola000
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Play a little game with yourself. Every now and then, go randomly flip on PBS and tell me what's on or what promo they're running. More than 40% of the time it's going to be some feature on the Holocaust, civil rights or slavery.
That's just ridiculously out of proportion when considering the vast of array of programming subject matter available in the universe
Believe me, I know. I've been catching down votes for talking about this for YEARS. Again, it's not helpful to play "Hitler was the real Democrat" or "dems are the real racists" because these both cede the frame to the left. They are dictating the conversation, completely, and it's easy to blow conservative talking points up with emotional pleas.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:41 am to MrCarton
quote:Feelings are just that, feelings. Doesn't stop facts and logic. This ridiculous crap won't end until it stops being lucrative for the puppet masters that keep the weak minded believing this idiocy. Excuses and faux outrage, it's comically sad.
it's easy to blow conservative talking points up with emotional pleas.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:44 am to civiltiger07
quote:No.
That would make sense, but everyone knows that reparations will just be based on race.
"Everyone knows" there will be zero reparations. Just typical Dem Election Cycle total bs to play through the media.
Ignore this nonsense intended to sow division and divide and conquer the people from within.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:46 am to DemonKA3268
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Feelings are just that, feelings. Doesn't stop facts and logic
This is just not true, and It doesn't matter how many times that worm Ben Shapiro says it. Feeling actually don't care about facts and people act based on how they feel.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:47 am to DemonKA3268
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This ridiculous crap won't end until it stops being lucrative for the puppet masters that keep the weak minded believing this idiocy. Excuses and faux outrage, it's comically sad.
Right, they are going to do this because it's good for their disparate coalition. But the right should stop engaging them on this shite at all. It's a losing battle.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:47 am to MrCarton
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Feeling actually don't care about facts and people act based on how they feel.
Which is ridiculous
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:47 am to MrCarton
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Because engaging it in this manner gives them control over the conversation.
No it doesn't, only to the liars does this hold true
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:47 am to coachcrisp
quote:Why do people keep repeating this nonsense? Almost every word of this assertion is factually incorrect.
North Carolina’s largest Slave holder in 1860 was a Black plantation owner named William Ellison.
Yes, some Blacks owned slaves. This fact makes the point that Whites were not the only “evil slave owners.”. But it is never enough. Hyperbole must prevail.
William Ellison lived in SOUTH Carolina. He was wealthy and successful. At its peak, his slave ownership was 63 persons, and this made him the largest BLACK slave owner in SC. He does nor even make the list of the 100 largets slaveowners in SC ... just ONE of the slave states. Nationally. he MAY have been in the top thousand.
The Johnson thing is about 50% true, in that he was the first to have a civil judgment awarding lifetime chattel slavery, though it was done in a number of earlier criminal cases for indentured servaants who kept escaping.
quote:This ceased to be legal in most states by about 1750.
Many Black Slaves were allowed to hold jobs, own businesses and own real estate.
The rest of your points are basically true. Why not stick with objective fact, rather than lies and half-truths?
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 8:14 am
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:49 am to coachcrisp
Fine.
In terms of rationale for grievance though, let's keep it real.
Here is a contemporary account of an 1899 lynching.
The Sam Hose lynching was not spontaneous.
It was planned to the extent several hundred people hopped a train from Atlanta just to watch.
Notice the "justification" from Atlanta at the end of the piece.
Filthy stuff.
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In terms of rationale for grievance though, let's keep it real.
Here is a contemporary account of an 1899 lynching.
The Sam Hose lynching was not spontaneous.
It was planned to the extent several hundred people hopped a train from Atlanta just to watch.
Notice the "justification" from Atlanta at the end of the piece.
Filthy stuff.
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:50 am to coachcrisp
"North Carolina’s largest Slave holder in 1860 was a Black plantation owner named William Ellison. "
WRong. April Ellison Jr was the largest slave owner in the midlands area of South Carolina ( he lived in Sumter SC).
He was born a slave but rumor is his master was also his daddy.
WRong. April Ellison Jr was the largest slave owner in the midlands area of South Carolina ( he lived in Sumter SC).
He was born a slave but rumor is his master was also his daddy.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 7:55 am
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:51 am to coachcrisp
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American Indians owned thousands of Black Slaves.
Pocahontas is the descendent of slave owners.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:52 am to MrCarton
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And this is the only response required to shut down this terrible conservative tactic.
And what response other than recitation of a few facts will shut down this bi-annual ressurection of 'reparations' demands??
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:52 am to coachcrisp
The largest slave owner in Louisiana was a black woman
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:52 am to AggieHank86
I wouldn't use the term " some" as there were a few thousand black slave owners.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:54 am to Sidicous
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"Everyone knows" there will be zero reparations.
Well yes, but I was just playing a hypothetical that reparations actually become a thing. Reparations would strictly be based on race. I'm a white guy so I would have to pay (or not receive). Disregarding that some of my ancestors were kicked out of Europe and sent to Canada then kicked out of Canada and sent to Louisiana. You know what I'm glad all of that happened because I love Louisiana.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:55 am to coachcrisp
That’s all very interesting, but slavery still was an awful de-humanizing institution. Regardless of who “owned” slaves. The fact that there were a few nonwhite slave owners doesn’t change much substantively, tbh
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:56 am to NC_Tigah
What does that have to do with the OP? He never denied racism or white’s abuse of blacks. He just asserted blacks treated their own just as badly as a rebuttal to identity politics and the reperation proposition
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:56 am to ChineseBandit58
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And what response other than recitation of a few facts will shut down this bi-annual ressurection of 'reparations' demands??
Reparations demands are a freakin gold mine for right wingers. Why the hell would you want to shut it down?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:56 am to Seldom Seen
There are plenty of reasons to discuss American historical events.
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