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re: Interesting facts about slavery I'll bet you didn't know.

Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:34 am to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:34 am to
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Feelings are just that, feelings. Doesn't stop facts and logic


This is just not true, and It doesn't matter how many times that worm Ben Shapiro says it. Feeling actually don't care about facts and people act based on how they feel.
You, my friend, are a true democrat! The liberal, progressive, democratic ideology are all predicated on emotion. Unfortunately, where emotion and common sense come to a "Y" in the road, you can wave good-bye to your friends of the "other" camp...just a fact...
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:36 am to
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You, my friend, are a true democrat! The liberal, progressive, democratic ideology are all predicated on emotion. Unfortunately, where emotion and common sense come to a "Y" in the road, you can wave good-bye to your friends of the "other" camp...just a fact.


I'm not a Democrat. I'm actually on the far right. Probably in the small circle of the furthest right of the board. If you want me disengage from reality so I can slide into the Ben Shapiro conservative mode, I'm sorry, but I'll have to disappoint.
Posted by Tigerswillprevail
Member since Nov 2011
2866 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:38 am to
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I'm actually on the far right.


So far right that you come out on the left side?
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18889 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:39 am to
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There's absolutely no reason for us to be discussing slavery in 2019


Agree. We'll be talking about polio next.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:39 am to
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I think u miss the larger picture here. This game is continually played by the left and will continue. For decades conservatives have been doing exactly what you say, walk away, ignore and be quiet. Where has that gotten us? Did they stop or continue to push?

Now where are at a point where these race baiters and apologists control our educational system, media and soon maybe our government. Reparations are being pushed as a national platform and spewed from the lefts media mouthpieces. Hatred of white people transcends all media platforms and has become socially acceptable and fully without accountability. Will reparations be the end or simply another step?




Lots to address here. Give me a bit.

1. You should fight back. More importantly, you should form your own attacks don't let the other side set the conditions of the fight. I'll give you an example:

Instead of talking about how reparations are too complicated and would never work (ceding HUGE ground to their narrative), why don't you actually let them continue to talk about a total non starter political position? I personally welcome discussions about this. It would be incredible for us for the right wing to actually believe reparations were on the horizon. Reparations are an Effing gold mine.

Getting into arguments about who owned what slaves is great, internally, on the right, but it's terrible to engage the other side like this, because it's not a topic we can win.

2. "walking away" from the overall battle is not an option I condone. Walking away from certain defeat is. It's more important to not submit to their frame than to be factually correct. Even AOC understands this.

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Now where are at a point where these race baiters and apologists control our educational system, media and soon maybe our government


Sir, they already own all of this. In doctrinal terms, the right is in a full blown latent phase.

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Hatred of white people transcends all media platforms and has become socially acceptable and fully without accountability. Will reparations be the end or simply another step?


The Democrats and the left are making huge huge mistakes right now, but the right, the conservatives, aren't capitalizing. That's because they are one ignoring exactly what you pointed out. White people are being attacked relentlessly, and what are conservatives doing? Talking about plantations and prison reform. It's maddening. It's like the right is stuck in a single gear, defending itself pointlessly against accusations of racism when they could be capitalizing on the obvious and unceasing attacks on White people by the anti-White democratic party and leftist MSM.

This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 8:53 am
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15844 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:40 am to
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Interesting facts about slavery I'll bet you didn't know. by coachcrisp


And?

That makes it okay for white people to have boght slaves, owned slaves, beat them, rape them?

Thanks for clearing that up!
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:41 am to
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Maybe so. Perhaps it should be not talked about, period. It's a losing battle for ALL parties involved.


Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64468 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:42 am to
Do we compensate the families of the hundreds of thousands of white Union soldiers who died or were maimed in an effort to preserve the Union


FIFY

MrCarton



Do we compensate the families of the hundreds of thousands of white Union soldiers who died or were maimed in what started as a effort to preserve the Union and morphed into a cause for freedom from slavery.


FIFY



Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19241 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:44 am to
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Once you engage in the banter, it's over. They've won. For example, when a leftist calls you a racist, it's a smear in 2019, but 100 years ago, it meant something entirely different. When you say "no YOU are the racist", you are ceding their definition of the word in question. They win, because what's important is the frame (racism = what they want it to mean). Whether or not you successfully defend yourself, they will now use this word on anyone else, and it's ability to end and an actual discussion and begin a defensive argument is greater than before. It's hard to see this now, because they've dominated that word (racism) for so long, but you could try it with other words too and see how easy it is to do, and also how easy it is to avoid. You cannot win by engaging it. You have to immediately deny their frame by not engaging.
In regards to the word "Racist", it has lost almost all of it's power because it has been used so much and the majority of the time for things that didn't warrant it. I still don't fully agree with ignoring or not engaging. I also feel that if you do this, they will think they have control over you but I do think this strategy should be used whenever someone says they are going to boycott a state, store, entertainer, etc. Don't engage or reply, in the end, not that much will be lost. Just my opinion.
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6213 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:47 am to
Isn’t owning one slave as bad as owning 100?
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:48 am to
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And? That makes it okay for white people to have boght slaves, owned slaves, beat them, rape them? Thanks for clearing that up!
Can you name anyone "white" that has bought slaves? I'm talking about people now, how about 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100 years ago?

It's okay, we know you can't. Yep, it was a horrible thing, period.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15844 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:50 am to
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Can you name anyone "white" that has bought slaves?


I can't, for the life of me, find where I claimed this.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41199 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:53 am to
My people came here as indentured servants (slaves). Do I get reparations too?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:54 am to
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He does nor even make the list of the 100 largets slaveowners in SC ... just ONE of the slave states. Nationally. he MAY have been in the top thousand.


The first part is not true.

And I don't know why you're shitting on the guy for not just sticking to facts when you're just throwing out assumptions with your 'may' comment.

Why not stick with objective fact, rather than lies and half-truths?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:54 am to
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Isn’t owning one slave as bad as owning 100?
Not in the context of MOST Black slave owners in the 19th century.

Sure, there were a handful of large Black slaveowners like Ellison and Richards, but the vast majority owned only one or two ... family members that they purchased from former owners and had not yet been able to manumit. (Manumission had actually become quite difficult by the mid-1800s).
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:57 am to
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That makes it okay for white people to have boght slaves, owned slaves, beat them, rape them?



Wasn't just white people who did this. In fact if you look at the history of slavery worldwide 'white' people were very late into the game. It is just 'white' people that are singled out. Slavery was abolished in America 150 years ago yet we have people more concerned with that than current actual slavery that exist RIGHT NOW in Africa and the Middle East and parts of Asia. Why is that?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:58 am to
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Coach, it is interesting that Lincoln wanted to send them back and did send some to Liberia I believe plus he helped create a South American country to ship them too. Almost to a black slave they refused to go. No thank you!

Right. This reminds me of the story told about Strom Thurmand as a young legislator when he chaired an exploratory panel on the possibility of the govt. paying to send by ship all the negroes in the U.S. back to Africa.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:58 am to
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In regards to the word "Racist", it has lost almost all of it's power because it has been used so much and the majority of the time for things that didn't warrant it.


But what it hasn't lost is the power to instantly reframe a discussion. Yes, it's easy to say "oh you think everyone is racists, who cares", but what that statement implies is that " yeah, I mean if I WAS "racist", you'd have a point. That's the power of the word, and why it's not a good idea to engage in battles over it.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:59 am to
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My people came here as indentured servants (slaves). Do I get reparations too?


You get respirations
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19241 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:59 am to
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I can't, for the life of me, find where I claimed this.
Nice deflection
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