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re: Instead of talking about the flag why aren't we talking about the issue behind the protest
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:09 pm to ChewyDante
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:09 pm to ChewyDante
These protests are designed to do what? What's the grievance and how does this method of protest remedy that grievance? Furthermore, can the protesters say that their form of protest have been a net positive? I think that there are quite a few Americans, especially service members and veterans, who might feel like these protests do more harm than good.
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:10 pm to Dale51
stop whitesplain yo privilege upon my brotha's person
our arguments need not make sense. we are cocoa colored and therefore everything we say is valid.
our arguments need not make sense. we are cocoa colored and therefore everything we say is valid.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:10 pm to Tigerdev
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I'm not being presented with facts. I'm being presented with right wing talking points and cherry-picked statistics.
Here's more "right wing talking points" and "cherry-picked" statistics for you: Uber Right Wing News Source and Author
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:11 pm to Tigerdev
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I'm not being presented with facts. I'm being presented with right wing talking points and cherry-picked statistics.
So which stats are you considering "cherry picked"? Also please provide your list of stats that prove your point that police are targeting non whites just bc of their race.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:11 pm to lsucoonass
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i know a few go to the urban communities and i applaud them for that.
Why are we always have to be going into the urban communities to fix things?
Why are there all these issues with urban communities? Education, poverty, crime..
Why don't these urban communities fix it themselves if they are so adamant?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:11 pm to Tigerdev
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:12 pm to Centinel
them stats is racist and made to make the black man look like a common criminal.
we built the pyramids. we wuz kangs until you evil honkies stole us from our land.
we built the pyramids. we wuz kangs until you evil honkies stole us from our land.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:12 pm to Centinel
Let's see, compared to whites, blacks are actually killed at a lesser rate if you factor in their likelihood of being statistically more likely to attack cops on site compared to whites and the fact that they commit more violent crimes per capita and are responsible for half the murders in this nation.
Over twice as many whites are murdered by police annually than blacks and if you want to use the "population" logic here, why is it almost 90% of the interracial crimes committed daily black on white?
You and the media twist this into a "black victim" narrative. You seldom hear the MSM drag out black on white crimes the way they do white on black. You never hear the MSM talk about an innocent white man who was murdered unjustly by a cop, yet the MSM will do everything in their power to victimize a black thug who disobeyed police orders and was shot just to stir up riots and further divide the country.
But tell me more about twisting facts, statistics and numbers...
Over twice as many whites are murdered by police annually than blacks and if you want to use the "population" logic here, why is it almost 90% of the interracial crimes committed daily black on white?
You and the media twist this into a "black victim" narrative. You seldom hear the MSM drag out black on white crimes the way they do white on black. You never hear the MSM talk about an innocent white man who was murdered unjustly by a cop, yet the MSM will do everything in their power to victimize a black thug who disobeyed police orders and was shot just to stir up riots and further divide the country.
But tell me more about twisting facts, statistics and numbers...
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:12 pm to Tigerdev
cherry picked statistics? 
The Washington Post is about as liberal of a news agency there is. read the front page, right now, half of the article headlines are backhanded jabs at Trump.
The Washington Post is about as liberal of a news agency there is. read the front page, right now, half of the article headlines are backhanded jabs at Trump.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:14 pm to Klark Kent
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yep.
in 2016: 466 white to 233 black.
in 2015: 497 white to 259 black.
that argument of his is completely ignorant.
He's made the argument before. It is based on % of the demographic. He just chooses to ignore the fact that blacks are also involved in crimes at a higher %. He just wants to cherry pick his #'s.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:14 pm to Klark Kent
Oh it’s hilarious. But that’s what happens when your arguments die. Hurl insults and bash the source of these racist statistics.
But the source is on your side
But the source is on your side
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:15 pm to Tigerdev
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then why does the board get all giddy whenever a policemen is let off the hook?
What the frick?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:18 pm to Centinel
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I'm going to take a different tack with you today.
Ok. Let's say you are 100% correct. What is your solution? How would you, BamaATL, fix the problem?
You going to respond BamaATL?
I'll even open it up to TigerDev if he hasn't run out of this thread with his tail between his legs.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:21 pm to Tigerdev
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poli board right wing extremist sect
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cherry picked statistics
You erred in the above quotes, bruh.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:25 pm to ChewyDante
They don't want a conversation.
Black people are not oppressed in this country. The media has given them the narrative that police want to kill blacks. The fact is police have too much power and leniency granted by the courts. We should all be protesting the power that police have.
This is/should not be about race at all.
I don't think kneeling during our national anthem is the right way to protest.
Black people are not oppressed in this country. The media has given them the narrative that police want to kill blacks. The fact is police have too much power and leniency granted by the courts. We should all be protesting the power that police have.
This is/should not be about race at all.
I don't think kneeling during our national anthem is the right way to protest.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:27 pm to MuhRussians
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Black people are not oppressed in this country.
Some may be, as individuals but there isnt systematic oppression
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I agree. Sorry that came off as 100% no oppression.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Well your link was on CNN so I am not sure why you are acting like this wasn't national news.
It doesnt surprise me you havent heard of these. Wonder why?
And unlike many of you I can be very very clear here: Killing an unarmed teenager (even if he didn't comply) was wrong. These police were unprofessional and reacted out of fear. They need more training, and higher standards for the ability to cope with life or death situations and stress.
Notice what you don't see me doing: Putting the victim on trial, saying the kid was a thug so he deserved it, or coming up with some bs to justify what the police did.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:53 pm to Tigerdev
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One point that you guys are missing is that this protest (and I don't agree with the methods) is not aimed at winning the hearts and minds of the people on this board.
I think this is where you are misguided. They have all the right in the world to protest what they feel is injustice. They made a terrible mistake in thinking that kneeling for the flag/anthem was a good way to bring on the discussion. It alienates many and the message they wanted to try to "discuss" is totally lost.
They have lost this political fight because their protest overshadowed the message.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:57 pm to Tigerdev
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And unlike many of you I can be very very clear here: Killing an unarmed teenager (even if he didn't comply) was wrong. These police were unprofessional and reacted out of fear. They need more training, and higher standards for the ability to cope with life or death situations and stress.
Notice what you don't see me doing: Putting the victim on trial, saying the kid was a thug so he deserved it, or coming up with some bs to justify what the police did.
Well that's an argument that many will find very valid if not outright agreeable, but that's not the issue being argued by the kneelers. They are arguing a nationwide racist conspiracy to murder blacks.
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