re: Instead of talking about the flag why aren't we talking about the issue behind the protest

So the numbers for 15,16 and 17 have been posted and we’re ready for the conversation

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What number(s) do you think counter that fact?

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You have yet to establish it as a fact. Disproportional how?

1. The number of interactions with police that involves "white" people is what number?

2. The number of interactions with "black" people is what number?

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If someone disagrees with you on degree,

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You didn't disagree on degree. You speak in complete absolutes and certainty in every race conversation I've ever had with you. Look up your posts from last night.

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Racism does exist

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I would love to hear in your own words what racism you think is an actual issue...Since cop violence is a myth.

Smart take. Agreed.

The left doesn't care about truth; they care about narrative. As long as the narrative advances the social and political agenda, there need be no emphasis on accuracy.

Trayvon Martin: Boy walking to get skittles
Mike Brown: Hands up, don't shoot
Sandra Bland: murdered over a taillight
Freddy Gray: murdered in the back of a police van
Alton Sterling: killed for selling CDs
Tamir Rice: killed for playing with a "toy" gun (that looked just like a real gun)

The list goes on. The only legitimate examples of excessive force were with Eric Garner and Walter Scott. Everything else has been a ruse with the intent to incite racial tension.

Hell, remember Jackie Coakley and her fake rape claim at UVA? Advocates still use that case as an example of a sexual assault on campuses - even though it's proved to be false. Why? Because in their mind, "it could have happened."

Personally, I don't care what people do during the national anthem. But I do take offense to institutions of power (i.e. the Press) not asking questions, not conducting a modicum of research to verify the veracity of these claims. The violence, the anguish, the political strife would have been easily minimized had someone just asked questions.

That's why I hold the Press and Media to full account. That's why I support suppression of the first amendment to known provocateurs who intentionally skew the truth. To me, it's akin to yelling fire in a crowded movie theatre. The country is far too divided and volatile to allow these cowards to profit from social agitation.

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My question is why are conservatives pretending like the part they take exception with is that its the anthem... When in reality it seems that it is the cause itself that enrages them... Feels a bit disingenuous...

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I will restate this. ANYONE that would use the anthem and flag to protest would meet the same backlash. There is ability to be pissed about using that as your time to protest and then there is always time to disagree with the actual message they are stating is true.

The problem is that they are not having dialogue. It's a pussy way out of actually having a discussion that you can't back up.

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So the question is, do they actually want a conversation or do they rather demand that everyone submit to their unsubstantiated and conspiratorial narrative without recognizing the validity of any opinions but their own?

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Read Rules for Radicals and your questions will be answered.

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They are trying to motivate the black vote.

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This. If they and the rest of these other limousine libtards truly cared about "inequality", they'd give millions to poor blacks across the country. They'd all move to these third world black neighborhoods to live in peace and harmony with the people they pretend to care so much about. They'd be out working to physically improve these communities. They had eight years of a black, far left president and the day HE left office, blacks are worse off than they've ever been before.

Taking a knee isn't going to lift blacks out of poverty. Talking and bitching on social media isn't going to solve a damn problem. Considering the overwhelming amount of libtards who always bitch about inequality, they all have the power to come together and lift these people out of poverty, but instead, they'd rather bitch on social media all day while shifting the blame of democratic failures on "white Republican males"... all because blacks are nothing more than political leverage to them and they can't afford to lose the black vote.

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Statistics are only a religion for people when they twist them for their own purposes. "Lies, damn lies, and statistics" i believe is the saying.

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You cannot twist the numbers of fatal police shootings each year compared to number of police stops or detains.

You cannot twist the numbers of white males versus black males shot.

You cannot twist the numbers of white males in this country compared to black males.

You cannot twist the ratio of white males shot to black males.

You cannot twist the ratio of white male population to black male population.


However you *can* ignore all the above to push a narrative then dismiss these statistics as "being twisted."

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When in reality it seems that it is the cause itself that enrages them.

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The cause of what exactly?

In your opinion, what is that "cause"? Be as specific as possible.
Thanks.

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like i said, and you basically said (in response to Bama), even if you agree the problem exists, they have no reasonable or realistic plan to combat it. this is why i associate this all with attention seeking behavior and not a legitimate cause

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Ya, I didn't really expect a response from her.

shite like this just irks me because in my line of work previously it was hammered in to me that you never bring your boss a problem without possible solutions.