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re: Income Tax vs Flat/Sales Tax. Which is Better?

Posted on 1/21/23 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 1:29 pm to
I’m all for a flat tax. Doing away with the IRS alone has to be savings in the hundreds of millions just in administrative expenses. I don’t think the wealthy would lol really pay a lot more than the did previously, but what will change is that all of the people who pay nothing or even profit through the tax code will be a thing of the past.

Sales tax can be manipulated too easily. Flat tax means everyone, regardless of income, is on the hook for the money the government spends. No better way to have thee vast majority wanting the government to be smaller, less powerful, and more efficient.
Posted by immobileman
nowhere in particular
Member since Nov 2014
1862 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 1:33 pm to
Consumption tax.

And then the accountant business sinks. I am sure they have a strong lobby that no-one really thinks about. CT is the fairest way, but we need to pay for Ukraine, ya know?
Posted by Oabafu
Wisconsin
Member since Jan 2022
1170 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 1:57 pm to
Flat Tax is MORE equitable: everybody BUYS something, so EVERYBODY pays equally, rich, poor, doesn't matter your social or financial status, you pay your fair share and no getting around it.....

Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16649 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:01 pm to
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Income Tax vs Flat/Sales Tax. Which is Better?

This should be easy for anyone with a rudimentary understanding of economics.

When we tax something, we get less of it.

So should we tax productivity or consumption? The answer should be obvious.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61434 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:21 pm to
Rich folks would spend all money out of country.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74173 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 3:00 pm to
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Consumption tax.
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2280 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 3:10 pm to
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Income is a well defined concept with some complexities


Nice qualifier.

Those ‘complexities’ are absolutely leveraged on a regular basis to do legal bull shite.

How naive are you?
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10332 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 3:18 pm to
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I think a flat tax would get higher income folks to pay more of our taxes since they can buy jets and fancy cars and mansions.



I think people in general would buy a lot less and pay cash for things
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31529 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 3:29 pm to
In general im against it as it’s a regressive tax structure and the little man pays more of a burden than the well off. Also there would still have to be an IRS, im not sure where you get that it could be abolished.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 3:34 pm to
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I want a flat sales tax with exemptions for those over 70 and the handicapped. This will lower overall income tax for those paying now and will now force those who don't contribute to pay their share.


thats a tax on stupid people or those without elderly/handicapped friends/family. people could just use pop-pop's amazon account to buy stuff.
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
7923 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 3:51 pm to
CBDC will eliminate tax evaders and the IRS. You will have no privacy , eat z bugs , own nothing and be happy. You dont and they turn off your CBDC .
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 5:31 pm to
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HailHailtoMichigan!



Posted by High Desert
Member since Jan 2023
265 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 5:34 pm to
Of the 3, sales tax is best by a wide margin.

Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20271 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 5:42 pm to
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No property tax.


This is the one that gets me. No matter how hard you work or what you do you can never truly own anything. If you don't pay your property tax, the guv steals your house or car or whatever it is.

You can never truly be independent or free as long as property tax exist.
Posted by southdowns84
Member since Dec 2009
1621 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:26 pm to
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Not really. If one man owes X amount of school millage because of property he owns then take that X amount and divide it by the number of people using that property and send them all a bill.


You are naive as shite.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:32 pm to
Everyone would pay it even people not in this country legally.

It would hurt the purchase of some items as people do it for tax breaks.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63323 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:33 pm to
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Income is a well defined concept with some complexities but you can't "frick around with it to skate taxes".
The advantage of income taxes is the government pays almost noting for collecting it. That burden is hoisted onto employers that have to do the collecting--for free.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16402 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:49 pm to
Income taxes are theft and immoral.

A consumption tax is fair and moral. It also has an inpact on the carbon footprint since if a person is taxed on what they consume then it’s likely that they consume less and thus put out as much emissions.

Politicians should not even be involved in the concept of taxation either. They use it as a political football. They play one off the other. Rich… evil….tax more. Poor … good - give more

Take politicians out of it and only involve them in spending. Let them fight over that.

The sad part of it all is eventually we’ll have a consumption tax here in addition to the income tax just like in most of Europe.

Posted by TH095526
Member since Dec 2022
888 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:32 pm to
All taxation is theft
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:48 pm to
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