re: I'm still waiting for the logical reason we are at war with Iran - we know it isn't nukes

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North Korea has been directly threatening the US mainland with attacks and wiping us out since 1953.

You don't remember 2017 when TRUMP was in office? All the missile tests and direct threats wanting to “wring the windpipe of the Yankees”?

From 2022-2023 there were over 100 missile test with the intent of “striking the US mainland”

Why aren't we invading there? Especially after the turmoil in South Korea?

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Team A invading Team B when both have nuclear weapons = mutually assured destruction

Team A invading Team B before Team B has a nuke = trying to prevent a mutually assured destruction scenario.


Not saying the Iran op is right or wrong, just that comparing invading a nuclear North Korea and potentially invading a not yet nuclear Iran are not the same thing logically.

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'm still waiting for the logical reason we are at war with Iran - we know it isn't nukes

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You got a mouse in your pocket?

Israel has been, piece by piece, over the past decade dismantling Iran’s proxy network. Iran built a network of allies designed to do two things: attack Israel and create enough economic leverage over the West that retaliation against/removal of the Iranian regime would be impractical.

Getting influence in Iraq gave them a land corridor to their ally in the Assad regime. This allowed them to supply Hezbollah in Southern Iran and funnel weapons into the West Bank. Meanwhile, the Houthis could harass Red Sea shipping and the Iranians could choke the Strait of Hormuz.

Iran’s influence on Iraq has waned some, the Assad regime in Syria has been overthrown, Hezbollah is a shadow of its former self after the dicksploding pager incident, the Houthis have been weakened by American and Saudi air strikes, and the Iranian regime is facing large scale resistance both from separatists in the East and from women’s rights advocates in the cities.

Israel sees Iran as vulnerable, and wants to go all-in to remove the regime. However, they lack the requisite navy and ground forces to do so. Thus, they pressured the American regime to do what we do.

The reality is, there are 3 reasons to fight the Iranians:
1. Remove their ability to hold global shipping hostage
2. Topple the autocratic regime to replace them with one that values human rights
3. Prevent them from developing nuclear weapons which they have demonstrated the political will to use if given the opportunity.

I believe that Trump is content with 1, and 3. Israel demands 2.

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- we know it isn't nukes

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No?

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"Once Iran had a conventional shield of ballistic missiles, it could race toward nuclear weapons unmolested, because nobody could touch it.

Iranian negotiators walked into the room and said, "We have enough material for 11 nuclear bombs, that's our starting position."

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Sure it does

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Sure what does? Can you explain further? Your comment was vague.

lol what justification did you make up for the war in Ukraine?

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The fact that almost nobody would sign up to actually be deployed over there or send their kids shows you that it's not justified.

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No, it doesn't prove that. A person could theoretically be incredibly selfish and desire others to fight a very justified battle for them but that doesn't mean that the cause isn't justified simply because of the behavior of those around it.

By that logic, any field that a person enjoys the benefits of but wouldn't enter themselves would make that field not justified. I would never nor would I want my friends and family to be a police officer that patrols a high crime area of a major blue city but that doesn't mean that there isn't a legitimate need of someone to fill the role.

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I'm still waiting for the logical reason we are at war with Iran - we know it isn't nukes

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What I don't get is they've been so close to a nuke for years, yet, with no threat at all during 2008-2016 and from 2020-2024, they didn't acquire or construct one.

Then, the US "obliterates" their facilities in 2025 and 6 months later they're just "2 weeks away" again.

Like how so many can't see we are being lied to is a bit unsettling.

Regan, Bush, Clinton, Bush x2, Obama x2, Trump 1, and Biden didn't bomb them. But Trump x2 with the neocons in his ear was willing to do it.

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What libs? I'm more conservative than Trump by a longshot

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Are you new here?

There was a time when different perspectives here were discussed and, even if there was no agreement, it avoided the childish name calling and preening of social media.

Those days are long gone, along with voices like BlackHelicopterPilot and TBird. Reasonable voices that just got tired of the crap.

Now, just like anywhere else, you are either “loyal” to Trump (a word used here unironically) or you are a leftist/liberal/cuck. Very little in between.

In 2017, one of my biggest gripes with the coverage of Trump and his voters was that we were all a bunch of angry old white guys. This board has become proof to the lie.

So, yes, you are now a raging liberal.

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they just keep doubling down on the same jew world order

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IDS.