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re: I'm still waiting for the logical reason we are at war with Iran - we know it isn't nukes

Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:37 am to
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
14119 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:37 am to
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I'm still waiting for the logical reason we are at war with Iran - we know it isn't nukes

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According to Trump’s own words

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I'd be ok with Trump saying the actual clear truth

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But say something that doesn't blatantly contradict what's already been said/done. Just be straight up.

Since you are the center of the known universe, it is all being done to personally piss you off.

Get help for your TDS. You had no critical thinking skills during Biden’s term. You could leave with the 25 million he let in including all the terrorists’ cells.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1987 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:37 am to
Neo cons!!!!

My kids in a ground war!!! (new talking point alert!!)
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7854 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:39 am to
like any other war to occur in the mideast................oil.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1987 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:39 am to
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What libs? I'm more conservative than Trump by a longshot


not you then.

this is all about you isn't it?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23793 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:40 am to
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As one pundit succinctly put it, we either deal with a non nuclear capable Iran now, or, we let our kids/grandkids deal with a nuclear capable Iran in the future


Obama gave Irans pallets of cash based on Iran promising not to enrich Uranium beyond 3.7%. Iran now has Uranium enriched neyond 60%.

Biden allowed Iran to access billions of dollars that Iran previously couldn't access due to sanctions. Oh, and Biden also gave Iran close to a billion of US tax payers dollars.

Based on history, we can conclude that the next Marxist Dem POTUS would allow Iran to continue to achieve a nuclear weapon while lying to the world.

Israel WILL NOT allow Iran to achieve nucler capability. Israel wouldn't think twice about striking Iran first with a nuke, which could possibly seriously lead to WWIII. Iran needed to be dealt with and it's better that we're involved to have some level of control over Israel.

Israelis view Iran much differently than folks on a message board thousands of miles away. They believe Iran's threats to wipe Israel from the face of the earth and have made many references to fire in irder to do so.... Israel will not hesitate nor afford Iran any more slack.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90618 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:42 am to
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My kids in a ground war!!! (new talking point alert!!)



It's funny.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26294 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:44 am to
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The board’s makeup, discourse, and posting styles changed drastically from 2015-2017, and we have all been worse for it.

There are a few of us who don’t give a crap what keyboard warriors label us and will call out the low-IQ crap on a regular basis.

The world would be a far better place if the reasonable middle would stop abdicating the public forum to the shrieking extremes.

I’ll just keep tilting at my windmills.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
24842 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:44 am to
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Iran may have never “directly” killed US soldiers, but they certainly have through their proxies.


They have deftly as well. My son was part of an op to arrest several Quds commanders in Iraq who were using truck bombs on IS installations. One of the FNGs leaked some of the footage on his first and last mission. That’s the only reason I know about it.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26505 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:44 am to
The only way to keep the mullah nutjobs from getting nukes is regime change. That's the long term reason. Many attacks on US troops over the last 50+ years is another. A murderously repressive regime is another big factor.

Add 'em up.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102725 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:45 am to
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we know it isn't nukes


Iran literally bragged to us they had enough weapons grade uranium to make 11 nukes and that’s why Trump ultimately pulled the trigger
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6300 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:45 am to
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The deep state got their moneys worth with war Pete man guy is a sociopath through and through


How much money is Pete getting for this war?
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26294 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:46 am to
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My kids in a ground war!!! (new talking point alert!!)

Do you dispute that this is on the table?
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1987 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:50 am to


I dispute the sincerity of your position about your kids being in a ground war yes.

Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26294 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:52 am to
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I dispute the sincerity of your position about your kids being in a ground war yes.

Why?
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1987 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:53 am to
It's funny


"Billy, don't be a hero, don't be a fool with your life"
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:54 am to
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According to Trump, Tulsi Gabbard, and our own intelligence reports.
100% false.

Regardless, according to our own intel, Iran's ballistic missile range limit was 1250mi. That's 1/2 the range of the missile Iran fired at Diego Garcia. So our Intel is certainly fallible.

Couple that with Iran's negotiators stating flat-out they not only had fully-enriched, warhead-ready uranium squirreled away, but they had enough to make 11 nuclear bombs.

Yet, you say "we know it isn't nukes."
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1987 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:56 am to
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Why?



because I think you're a fig and don't have any kids
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26294 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 11:02 am to
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because I think you're a fig

See my post above above how childish this board has become.
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and don't have any kids

See my numerous (probably too numerous) posts about my West Point son who now has a West Point wife.

You have any skin in the game, or just a tough-typing blowhard?
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6587 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 11:02 am to
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Did they have a history of threatening the global market? You know, the very thing that gave them lots of money.


Actually, yes.

1984-1988 (Tanker War); Iran (including IRGC naval units) attacked oil tankers and laid mines. Hundreds of ships damaged; oil flow disrupted but not stopped.

1988 (USS Sam Roberts); Iranian mines severely damaged a U.S. warship and triggered U.S. retaliation in Operation Praying Mantis.

2011 (Sanction threats); Iranian officials (including IRGC leadership) repeatedly threatened to close the Strait if oil sanctions intensified.

2015 (Ship seizures); IRGC seized the Maersk Tigris in the Strait and forced it to divert into Iranian waters.

2018 (Closure threats); After U.S. withdrawal from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, Iran warned it could block oil exports through the Strait.

2019 (Tanker attacks); IRGC seized the British-flagged Stena Impero.

2021 (Drones); IRGC-linked forces targeted or attempted to seize commercial vessels. Use of drones increased in maritime operations.

2022 (Tanker seizure); IRGC captured two oil tankers in the Gulf.

2023 (Tanker seizure); IRGC seized a U.S.-bound oil tanker in the Gulf of Oman.



While it's true that Iran has not yet enacted a full closure of the Strait, it has repeatedly participated in activity that could be seen as a threat to the free transport of oil through those waters and thus a threat to the global oil market, as around 1/5 of the world's oil supply runs through Hormuz. Iran has consistently used the SOH as a strategic bargaining chip.

Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 11:03 am to
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I'm still waiting for the logical reason we are at war with Iran

In 1979, Jimmy Cater abandoned a thriving Persian empire that was our friend, and allowed the most militant of the Muslim groups to tale control. From that day forward thy have sworn "Death to America"

Just since the pandemic, Iran has facilitated the deaths, or serious injury of 394 American citizens. In fact, going so far as to initiate a plot to assassinate the US President

You shouldnt need anything more as to why
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