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re: I’m being asked to prove that ANTIFA is real

Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:13 am to
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56111 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:13 am to
Tell your friend that if Antifa isn't real than neither was the KKK.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23640 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:15 am to
Just show him the Google results kf a search for "Rose City Antifa".
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67319 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:18 am to
There are radicals who loosely identify
as “ANTIFA”, but they are not particularly well-organized and communicate online, via texts, etc.

Of course, there occasionally are protesters who hold up a banner with ANTIFA written on it, but they’re not members of anything in particular.


This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 8:24 am
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1797 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:19 am to
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quote:
Proving something isn't real is generally harder. To prove something is real, you often just need one clear, verifiable piece of evidence—say, a fossil for a dinosaur or a photo for a UFO sighting. To prove something isn't real, you must rule out every possible instance of its existence, which can be nearly impossible due to the vastness of the universe or the limits of current technology. For example, proving unicorns don't exist requires checking every corner of the Earth (and beyond) where they could hypothetically be, while proving they do exist only takes one undeniable unicorn sighting. Absence of evidence isn't the same as evidence of absence, which makes disproving trickier.


The onus is on you. You can do it! (This is from Grok BTW)


Grok makes a very poor description of evidence.

While a dinosaur fossil is an excellent direct source of evidence, the other examples that the model indicates as evidence are not. A photo can be faked or misidentified, a unicorn sighting can be false or simple misidentification. Evidence is tangible and mostly irrefutable. A fossil, direct contact with an alien craft or creature, and a live captured unicorn are equivalent. Those examples described by Grok are not equivalent sources of evidence.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11031 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:33 am to
Why do you care? Disassociate from that individual
Posted by bodask42
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
2492 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:43 am to
quote:

There are radicals who loosely identify as “ANTIFA”, but they are not particularly well-organized and communicate online, via texts, etc. Of course, there occasionally are protesters who hold up a banner with ANTIFA written on it, but they’re not members of anything in particular.




Seriously, why are you Antifa simps continuing to lie about this “doesnt exist” shite even today. Your lies arent working anymore. They arent winning you elections. They arent winning hearts and minds. They arent fooling anybody who doesn’t want to be fooled.

What good does it do? Does it make you feel better to try and believe the lie yourself? Is it weak arse attempt by Antifa at obfuscating truth legally when charges are pressed to avoid Rico?

Im legitimately asking because I dont get it AT ALL.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56809 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:46 am to
quote:

by a super lib acquaintance.


Tell him, if they are not real, then "they" and you have nothing to worry about.
Posted by Sponge
Member since Nov 2018
4578 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:52 am to
The "antifa is just an idea' crowd fascinates me.

If you had the time, you could probably find 1000+ videos from the past decade of these self-described "antifa" activists dressed all in black showing up in multiple Western countries doing everything from their usual scream, intimidate, and assault schtick to full-blown rioting.

But because they're so loosely organized and don't always carry the antifa banner, they don't exist?

It's amazing to watch.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39580 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:55 am to
quote:

As a card-carrying dyed-in-the-wool ‘above it all’ Registered Independent


Assuming this is a troll post, but I'll play along.

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Can anyone make it make sense as to why the far right lunatic fringe has turned these into slurs ?


Because those that say they are anti-fiscist started using actual fascism, intimidation, and violence to try and implement their communistic worldview, and are justifiably ridiculed for their hypocrisy. Antifa isn't fighting fascism today and hasn't been this millennium. Pretending they are is an insult to any that actually had to endure fascism.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 10:02 am
Posted by bodask42
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
2492 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:57 am to
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I am old enough to remember when Antifa literally stood for “anti-fascist”.. until the far right co-opted it and made it into a slur


You are a dolt if you believe all of the communist double speak. I recommend reading “1984”.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5462 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:00 am to
I have never met a ANTIFA member… no one I know has either… doesn’t mean they don’t exist though… have anyone on here ever met one or know someone who has??
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465111 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:27 am to
quote:

That’s not an important question at all.


This becomes important more legally than conceptually, but, conceptually, if we want to call "Antifa" something vague and generic like "organized crime" then yes, it's not important.

Legally it becomes much more important (but I know you don't care as much about that).

Antifa is indisputably real in terms of a multitude of local chapters (to answer OP's question).

Antifa as a unified, singular organization is a much more strenuous argument.

And that's by design. The idea is based around decentralization.
Posted by TheBeezer
Texas
Member since Apr 2013
1956 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:29 am to
I’m being asked to prove that ANTIFA is real

Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
8497 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:45 am to
Dlt
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 10:46 am
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5895 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:48 am to
Perfect . . . tell him here's one getting KTFO!
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
3943 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:48 am to
Get new acquaintances.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7218 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:55 am to
ANTIFA = FASCISTS. They are so confused. The Mussolini black shirts and Hitler black shirts that precede the brown shirts. That’s them.
Posted by bodask42
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
2492 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:00 am to
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ANTIFA = FASCISTS. They are so confused.


Some are definitely confused and are useful idiots/pawns. But many are aware and embrace the obvious doublespeak of the name Antifa.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45948 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:03 am to
Antifa is well organized with chapters globally. They are now recognized as a domestic terror network in the US, The Netherlands, and Hungary.
Posted by SWOK Sooner
Member since Dec 2019
1131 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:09 am to
Why would anybody have a lib acquaintance? I'd rather slide naked down a slide of razor blades dowsed in rubbing alcohol
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