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re: If you force a Christian bakery to bake gay wedding cakes, it'll start a precedent
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:44 pm to Parmen
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:44 pm to Parmen
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I've seen too many girls saying "I'm going lesbian" to believe that.
You've seen too many bisexual girls saying "I'm going lesbian." Only bisexuals can choose. Gays and straights can't. Are you bisexual?
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:44 pm to Kentucker
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When you offer something for sale, it needs to be available to everyone who can afford it
Why? If there are many vendors for the product you want, what is the rationale for forcing any particular vendor to serve you?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:45 pm to Parmen
Bake them a cake that tastes like crap and don't refund their money.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:46 pm to Parmen
I think it comes down to the right to someone else's labor
Nobody has the rights to my labor and i shouldn't have the rights to anybody else's labor... and it doesn't matter who you do or dont pray to, who you do or don't sleep with and what you do or dont look like
Pretty simple
Nobody has the rights to my labor and i shouldn't have the rights to anybody else's labor... and it doesn't matter who you do or dont pray to, who you do or don't sleep with and what you do or dont look like
Pretty simple
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:47 pm to Kentucker
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Some people want to change this right so that whole groups can be excluded, however. That's just wrong.
It's not a right.
Who are these people and what groups are you referring to?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:47 pm to Kentucker
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You've seen too many bisexual girls saying "I'm going lesbian." Only bisexuals can choose. Gays and straights can't. Are you bisexual?
I've seen too many morons whose sexuality changes with the wind. It's all made up. Melt.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:48 pm to Dale51
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Why? If there are many vendors for the product you want, what is the rationale for forcing any particular vendor to serve you?
This reasoning is used for bakery products a lot. However, not all bakeries are of the same quality, affordability, etc. Why should anyone have to search for another bakery just because a popular, affordable bakery doesn't want to serve them?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:48 pm to FT
quote:how do you force a musical band to perform against their will?? Why do they get to decide I don’t like X opportunity at Y venue for Z price?? How do you make someone perform if they choose not to? How is an artist who designs cakes not allowed their own discretion when doing art, but it’s ok for a band to say “I don’t like your politics, I’m not performing for you?”
This is why you have to serve everyone, period.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:49 pm to Kentucker
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Discrimination is a door that can't be opened just a little to get at gay people.
Gay PEOPLE were not denied a cake.
A gay WEDDING was.
No doubt those same gay people could have gotten a birthday cake. Likewise their straight parents would have also been denied a gay wedding cake for their daughters'wedding.
Can a Jewish baker deny someone,anyone an easter cake? Can a LSU fan in Baton Rouge refuse to make an Alabama National Championship cake?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:49 pm to 03GeeTee
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The gay wedding cake case wasn’t about not serving someone. It was about creating a custom product with a specific message that they had the right to refuse doing.
This....you can't force someone to make an artistic, religious, or political expression.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:51 pm to Parmen
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I've seen too many morons whose sexuality changes with the wind.
You sure know a lot of ambisexual people to be so bigoted.
Knowledge usually mellows people.
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Melt.
I'd say you're the one that gets sweat on his brow when talking about differences in people.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:51 pm to Parmen
How about we go to a black baker and say 'The fiancee and I are KKK members. We'd like a cake for our wedding depicting us with our hoods on.'
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:51 pm to Kentucker
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When this case, or another, comes back to the SC, you can expect the court to rule that wedding cakes are not art. Just because the baker used that excuse to deny the gay couple does not make his specific cakes artwork. In fact, expect the nine jurors to say that anything made for public sale and consumption does not constitute art.
So speech can be compelled by the government?
A print shop can be forced to make T-shirts saying "F the Police" or a banner promoting a gay pride rally?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:54 pm to FT
quote:This is disgusting.
This is why you have to serve everyone, period.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:54 pm to Kentucker
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You don't choose your sexuality either. Did you choose?
What does choice have to do with the topic?
I think anyone should be able to refuse to serve anyone else. Why not?? I would have no problem if a business owner had a sign with flashing lights that said..."No Naggerz, Squints, Pollacks or Wops" in his/her window. How many people do you think that person's business would attract? Let the marketplace decide.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:56 pm to novabill
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Can a Jewish baker deny someone,anyone an easter cake? Can a LSU fan in Baton Rouge refuse to make an Alabama National Championship cake?
Can they? The SC will answer these questions and whether any bakery can deny its gay clients in due time. I predict they will say no, you serve the public at large.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:57 pm to Kentucker
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Why should anyone have to search for another bakery just because a popular, affordable bakery doesn't want to serve them?
Why should anyone have to search for another newsstand if a popular, affordable one refuses to carry Hustler?
Why should anyone have to search for a different gas station just because a popular, affordable one doesn't want to stock condoms?
Why should anyone have to search for another place to buy chicken just because a popular, affordable one closes on Sunday?
Discrimination is wrong, but "going elsewhere is inconvenient" isn't the reason - by that logic, the government can force business owners to offer objectionable products and services.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:57 pm to Kentucker
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When this case, or another, comes back to the SC, you can expect the court to rule that wedding cakes are not art
What does art have to do with it? The issue is whether a person can be forced to deny their religious beliefs.
"...shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion"
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:59 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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So speech can be compelled by the government?
How is a wedding cake speech? It's a product for sale.
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A print shop can be forced to make T-shirts saying "F the Police" or a banner promoting a gay pride rally?
The SC has often ruled in favor of "community standards." "F the Police" is certainly not a community standard anywhere in the US.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 2:00 pm to Dale51
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The issue is whether a person can be forced to deny their religious beliefs.
"...shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion"
That isn't the issue either. No one is denying or even attempting to deny the free exercise of religion on this issue.
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