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re: If you force a Christian bakery to bake gay wedding cakes, it'll start a precedent

Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:31 pm to
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Yeah, no. Don’t think you know what that means.


Nice try...you're wrong. It didn't follow that your comment, in any way, related to the point made.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7904 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:37 pm to
The idea of forcing someone to act against their convictions is abhorrent. Liberals not only think this is OK, they insist upon it.
The logical solution: take your business where it's appreciated. How many LGBT-friendly bakers would have been happy to bake the gay couple a cake? Kind of makes you wonder if they didn't shop around until they found a Baker unwillingly to condone their lifestyle.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:48 pm to
Wow, that is embarrassing for you.

You post a story written within days of the tranny announcement, to refute comments from the CEO made almost 2 years later saying "Yes, we screwed up. Our sales have dropped every quarter since that announcement."
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:55 pm to
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You post a story written within days of the tranny announcement, to refute comments from the CEO made almost 2 years later saying "Yes, we screwed up. Our sales have dropped every quarter since that announcement."


Unfortunately for you, he didn't say that.

The only thing from what you quoted that came from Cornell was "self-inflicted." The rest is pulled from an opinion piece.

Yeah, I'm good with what I posted, which Cornell actually said. Nice try though.




Also, here's a little something from the article you apparently cherry-picked your quote from:

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Cornell didn't approve the post, according to The Journal, but he supported the policy in interviews after it was published.

"We took a stance, and we are going to continue to embrace our belief of diversity and inclusion," Cornell said in an interview with CNBC in May.


What a retraction.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 1:38 am to
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The only thing from what you quoted that came from Cornell was "self-inflicted." The rest is pulled from an opinion piece.

Yeah, I'm good with what I posted, which Cornell actually said. Nice try though.

Sad. You started this whole debate saying TGT hasn't been hurt, because the stock is near an all-time high. Which of course, you just made that up, because its false.

And if they really haven't been hurt as you still claim, why did their CEO use the term 'self-inflicted'? Just the use of that term is an admission of an injury, as in 'self-inflicted wound'. A wound is the direct result of being hurt, and you've already conceded that he did use that exact term. So the CEO says they have been hurt, so it doesn't matter what your opinion is at this point.

And as far as your belief that he didn't retract, well your quote from him came a month after their announcement. But this is what he said a full year after:
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Target Chief Executive Brian Cornell hadn't approved the April 19 post and its aftermath at Target.

Mr. Cornell, 58 years old, expressed frustration about how the bathroom policy was publicized, and told colleagues he wouldn't have approved the decision.

You can't take it back, an unnamed source inside Target told Safdar. The person added that Mr. Cornell "felt very stuck." and "Target didn't adequately assess the risk, and the ensuing backlash was self-inflicted. Now, it was too late to reverse course."

So its pretty clear that you don't have a WSJ subscription. And therefore unable to read what the CEO said, and when he said it. Youre just going off the opinions of others, who are trying to downplay his most recent comments.

And just in case you need more facts about TGT being hurt

LINK
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Target’s CEO gets major pay cut after a terrible year

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Target said it missed its 2016 incentive EBIT goal of $5.74 billion by $623 million and fell short of its adjusted sales target of $71.62 billion by $2.13 billion

That's quite a miss, especially after adjusting your target. Seems like the CEO didn't grasp the potential damage until it was too late
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In contrast, bigger rival Wal-Mart Stores Inc gave CEO Doug McMillon a 13 percent pay hike.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 2:30 am to
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Either allow PRIVATE businesses to serve what they please or don't complain when it will be you having to do something you're uncomfortable with. Simple.


Art/creative expression is protected speech. Other shite? Nope
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 8:20 am to
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Which of course, you just made that up, because its false.


No it isn't. Numbers aren't that hard.

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And if they really haven't been hurt as you still claim, why did their CEO use the term 'self-inflicted'? 


He's a CEO, and that's what CEOs do. It was an isolated remark and literally the only one that you can point out.

It was also in regard to the announcement and the way it was done, not the policy. That announcement is still on their website and the policy is still something Cornell supports.

LINK

You're just so terrible at this.

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But this is what he said a full year after: 
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unnamed source
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The person added




Your WSJ subscription apparently hasn't helped you learn to read.

Just admit that you got all of your initial information from The Blaze, and now you're desperately backtracking.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 8:25 am to
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You started this whole debate saying TGT hasn't been hurt, because the stock is near an all-time high.


Also, this is bullshite. You started it by saying:

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Let a merchant pull that more than once, and see how long they have a customer base

Ask Target how that works out.


I'd say it's worked out just fine for them.

I also said "nearing an all-time high." There's a difference.
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