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re: If you force a Christian bakery to bake gay wedding cakes, it'll start a precedent
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:37 pm to BamaNixon
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:37 pm to BamaNixon
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There is a legal concept of “protected classes” that should be brought up here. Due to the historical discrimination against certain groups, members of those groups are protected against outright discrimination in most cases. That’s why members of KKK can be discriminated against - they aren’t a protected class. Homosexuals are a protected class
Thats nice.
So your Constitutionally protected rights only apply to historically "protected classes"??
Isn't the Constitution a sort of "protected class" of law?
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:41 pm to Dale51
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Good grief. We have entered the realm of "It depends of what the meaning of 'is' is".
The dude tried to compare wearing a hat to being gay. You stepped in and needed put in your place.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:44 pm to Argonaut
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The dude tried to compare wearing a hat to being gay. You stepped in and needed put in your place.
Not even close. He was responding to the idea that "everyone" has to be served no matter what. Context matters.
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This is why you have to serve everyone, period.
People wearing MAGA hats are included in "everyone".
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:49 pm to Dale51
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So your Constitutionally protected rights only apply to historically "protected classes"??
Straw man argument, and a particularly terrible one at that.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:51 pm to JoeHackett
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He was responding to the idea that "everyone" has to be served no matter what.
That's nice. The comparison was still made.
Keep up.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:53 pm to Parmen
Somebody else ran across that Louder with Crowder episode, I see.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:55 pm to Parmen
Cakes are not gay. They are cakes.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:56 pm to JoeHackett
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Seems like participating in a celebration of sin wouldn't be very Christian
Good point. So I wonder why so many Christians celebrate the deportation of refugees. Or so many celebrate wealth accumulation when widows and orphans aren’t being taken care of. Or so many celebrate Donald Trump, who is living in an aldulterous relationship.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:56 pm to LSUFreek
I know you must get asked this a lot. Also I am a newbie. But...
Are you THE lsufreek that did the awesome GIFs floating around the interwebs?
Are you THE lsufreek that did the awesome GIFs floating around the interwebs?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:01 pm to Argonaut
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Being gay and wearing a hat aren't the same thing.
This is the sort of thing that passes as liberal commentary today. Say something that literally no one on Earth disagrees with as if you're making some sort of grand point. Pulling the argument into something only tangentially related.
I've noticed they do this with so many of their arguments. Being opposed to abortion = "telling a woman what she does with her body". Then arguing that point as opposed to arguing whether killing babies is something we should be doing.
They would be better served to actually argue the merits of their case.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:03 pm to BamaNixon
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Good point. So I wonder why so many Christians celebrate the deportation of refugees. Or so many celebrate wealth accumulation when widows and orphans aren’t being taken care of. Or so many celebrate Donald Trump, who is living in an aldulterous relationship.
I guess they shouldn't.
Sort of a weird way of agreeing with me though.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:03 pm to JoeHackett
I didn't try to compare wearing a hat to being gay. Go cry to the poster who did.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:04 pm to Kentucker
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LINK
Bless your heart.
When the first result is Urban Dictionary, that means it's a made up word. It's use by a lot of morons doesn't make it legit.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:08 pm to Argonaut
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It's use by a lot of morons doesn't make it legit.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:10 pm to Argonaut
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Prejudice and bigotry aren't the same, either.
Case in point. Literally just stating a fact. Won't engage in the discussion beyond stating things no one disagrees with. Sad. I don't think liberals know how to win debates anymore.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:13 pm to Argonaut
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You stepped in and needed put in your place.
This only exists in your mind.
He was comparing acts of bigotry to acts of bigotry.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:13 pm to JoeHackett
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Sort of a weird way of agreeing with me though
I don’t agree that the ancient world had a concept of monogamous gay relationships and that it’s clear that homosexuality in that context is a sin. I do see how someone could disagree with me in good faith, however, but I don’t agree that a baker is called to refuse to make a cake for a gay wedding in order to affirm the Lordship of Jesus Christ. It’s certainly extra-biblical.
I will, however, call out the utter hypocrisy in Christians who single out homosexuality as some sort of unique sin and then celebrate a man who is living in clear violation (as much as anything in the Bible is clear) of Jesus’ teaching on marriage.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:15 pm to Parmen
Oxford does.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:15 pm to BamaNixon
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Straw man argument, and a particularly terrible one at that.
I agree. I wasn't the one making the strawman argument though. His claim was absurd and needed to be called out.
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