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re: If Trump declares war on Venezuela tonight, is he breaking a campaign promise?

Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297469 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:55 pm to
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Also just good old fashioned regime change.


Regime change - Quagmire - Millions of refugees.


There is a pattern.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2221 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:57 pm to
He can authorize military action against threats to the U.S. he can not declare war. To declare war it has to go to and be approved by congress. The current military actions against Venezuela were approved by congress.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71886 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

the fentanyl crisis

Doesn't have much at all, if anything, to do with Venezuela. Donald's own DEA has said as much in practically every report it has filed.

The fentanyl crisis is, however, a great motivator. It really pulls at the heartstrings and gets the people all riled up in support of whatever the real goal is.
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 3:05 pm
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2880 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:03 pm to
I get that but semantics doesn't negate the true reality of military engagement.
Posted by 844_Tiger
Down_Under
Member since Jul 2021
292 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

If Trump declares war on Venezuela tonight, is he breaking a campaign promise?

Yes but TCult will still love and support him.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170717 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:10 pm to
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Fentanyl: 1%.
Selling oil to China and voiding the dollar to make the trade: 69%.
Venezuela using oil dollars to cozy up to Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas: 30%

Correct

Except fentanyl is 0% in reality
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
1302 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:12 pm to


Live look-in at your GWOT veteran group-chat.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53797 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:14 pm to
I'm convinced he will just talk about how great he is
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9802 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:54 pm to
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No matter what he says in tonight's address, the same vaginas will be chaffed in the morning.


Absolute truth.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9802 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:56 pm to
quote:


quote:
Trump has never been a war hawk


Not until Jan 20, 2025. Then someone flipped a switch.


JFC... You are an absolute fricking retard.
Posted by Usmc
Member since Oct 2024
317 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:10 pm to
If he decided to go kenetic on them it won't be a war. Isn't it 90 says or so a president can act prior to needing a declaration of war or something like that?
It wouldn't take 90 days. Doubtful it would take 10....
Something something war powers act.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2880 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:10 pm to
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BTROleMisser


quote:

JFC... You are an absolute fricking retard.


Oh look. It's ol' Kneepads Magee circling the wagons before injun assault.

Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42832 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:11 pm to
Technically it won't be any Middle East or over seas military action, as Venezuela is on the same extensive landmass as the USA.

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35783 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:14 pm to
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At least a "temporary" campaign in Venezuela

He has sixty days before the reins go back to Congress for things like that.

All the stuff in the ME is going because no one will ever vote to remove the early 2000's AUMF
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33828 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:17 pm to
He cannot declare war
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 4:18 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21532 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:20 pm to
All this is more than a qar on drugs. Its more about killing Chinese influence and Islamic influence in our hemisphere.
I trust that Trump has his reasons for not telling us the total plan, that's why I voted for him.
You folks that have the misconception that the government should make known all of their military plans are simply retarded. fricking imbeciles.
Posted by wheelr
Banned
Member since Jul 2012
5880 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:20 pm to
Doesn't matter. Best to start panic posting now.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2880 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:26 pm to
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Regime change - Quagmire - Millions of refugees.

There is a pattern.


Never fails.

The Corporate-Globalist-Imperial regime ("American" in name only) gets to kill two birds with one stone this way.

1) Occupy a nation. Install puppet regime. Own the conquered nation's resources and weallth.

2) Weakening the US by:

a. Executing The Kalergi Plan by flooding the US with 3rd foreign flotsam and diluting & replacing native citizens

b. Executing the The Cloward-Piven Plan to further create chaos by disrupting existing community stability and siphoning off US resources and wealth

3) Feeding the MIC and its tentacles
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
1302 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:31 pm to
Amen
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53802 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

If Trump declares war on Venezuela tonight,


Congress declares war, not Trump
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