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re: If the Strait is Open, Why is Diesel at Record Highs?

Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
90342 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:46 pm to
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If you're a lawyer and therefore theoretically an intelligent person


I’m seeing more and more every day that this doesn’t necessarily compute.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:46 pm to
All our Navy support ships burning diesel to protect the strait has caused the shortage...
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:48 pm to
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All our Navy support ships burning diesel to protect the strait has caused the shortage...



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Patrick De Haan, head of petroleum analysis for GasBuddy, which tracks U.S. gasoline prices, estimated that 60% to 65% of the recent diesel price spike stems from Ukrainian attacks on Russian facilities
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:48 pm to
Politics
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:51 pm to


While speaking out now that they realize the Strait of Trump just did not have a whole lot to do with diesel prices, you know they are brainstorming to create another way to place blame.

Some are just simply incorrigible.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
18331 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:56 pm to
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I don't agree with this at all, but I wanted to give context. He wanted to do this over the course of 15 years to encourage people to buy more fuel efficient vehicles and live closer to work.


So in your context... it still ends with exponentially higher fuel costs... but the reason is just that government wanted to punish the people who wanted to stay with gasoline powered vehicles. And the remaining vehicles are far less reliable and harder to repair. Thus the government heavily interfering in the free market and forcing people to buy what they don't want. Which they later got their wish with health insurance.

AND to also be forced to move where they many not want to and never intended to.

And it appears that today's prices are also on the timeline of that. So again, leftists SHOULD actually be happy.

Yea... that's MUCH better. Thanks.
This post was edited on 10/6/26 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
65253 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:03 pm to
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the Strait of Trump just did not have a whole lot to do with diesel prices


The war with Iran is definitely having an effect on diesel prices though.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
8626 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:05 pm to
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So where is there a shortage? Please sgiw me wgere duesel isnt available in the US

Baw got them big fingers on the phone. I feel your pain. I always hit the wrong letter and have to edit.
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Let me guess, higher prices makes more diesel available? Or it makes refineries able to produce more?

Diesel is sold on the world market and is dictated by world prices. We do have a bottleneck at the refineries, as well as 2 wars that have hampered available feedstock.

My response however, was more smartass and was directed at his SOH comment.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
30334 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:08 pm to
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He wanted to do this over the course of 15 years to encourage people to buy more fuel efficient vehicles and live closer to work.


Frick him for having that mindset. That’s truly a communist POS, wanting to force people to live in a certain area.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
40061 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:10 pm to
Ukraine war has been going on forever. We should never depend on China for diesel. If you are going to start a war, you have an exit plan and contingencies for the effects of said war, i.e., DIESEL!
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
20856 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:12 pm to
Hmm, diesel is but a product in cracking oil down. 200 less plants doing this from 50 years ago while need has increased through the roof and still going. Not sure what the supply / demand theory starts at but I know what the storyline is
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
20856 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:14 pm to
One of these two would not matter if there were no blue backing democrats
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
25279 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:16 pm to

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If the Strait is Open, Why is Diesel at Record Highs?



I find it hard to believe that you don't already know this answer.
You're just trolling on Trump.
Try harder.
Posted by VoodooGlowSkull
Member since Aug 2024
236 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:16 pm to
I gave the context because I couldn't decide which was worse, raising prices all at once, or fricking people for 15 years and wanting them to live closer to work.
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
3436 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:24 pm to
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Patrick De Haan, head of petroleum analysis for GasBuddy, which tracks U.S. gasoline prices, estimated that 60% to 65% of the recent diesel price spike stems from Ukrainian attacks on Russian facilities
I disagree with this. The war has been ongoing for 5 years.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
12102 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:25 pm to
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I don't agree with this at all, but I wanted to give context. He wanted to do this over the course of 15 years to encourage people to buy more fuel efficient vehicles and live closer to work.

Take from that what you will.


I take that democrats want to dictate our lives and will make things unaffordable to control our behavior. It's authoritarianism disguised as climate policy.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42515 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:25 pm to
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don't agree with this at all, but I wanted to give context. He wanted to do this over the course of 15 years to encourage people to buy more fuel efficient vehicles and live closer to work. Take from that what you will.

What should we take from that?
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
18331 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:27 pm to
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I gave the context because I couldn't decide which was worse, raising prices all at once, or fricking people for 15 years and wanting them to live closer to work.


We get what they wanted to do and what their goal was. And the stance since then and forward through state leadership has multiplied the issue and working toward that goal.

The actual conundrum is.... if they wanted it then.... what is the problem now??
This post was edited on 10/6/26 at 1:28 pm
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17247 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:29 pm to
A large part of the reason for high diesel prices is the Ukraine v Russia war

Another large reason is the Iran war and the splinter fights from Iranian fringe fighters around the Red Sea.

Demand, meanwhile has not slowed much.

This issue could continue into 2027
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
8336 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:31 pm to
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Diesel is sold on the world market and is dictated by world prices. We do have a bottleneck at the refineries,


So tell us where theres a shortage. You claim bottleneck, and thats fine. Show me where its unavailable
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