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re: If the "Refi" plan is real, and the plan is to force a recession...
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:25 pm to LSUnation78
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:25 pm to LSUnation78
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Instead of trying to play gotchas, why dont you educate everyone on the “proper” way to finance 9 trillion dollars in 12 months. Whats the “right” play book here?
Why didnt yall consider this when Trump and Biden were burning through revenue?
All I heard was how awesome the Trump economy was
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:26 pm to Rebel
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Is the bond marker up or down in the past week?
Bond prices rose and yields fell in the past week.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:26 pm to slackster
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callable
this is not a word.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
Didn’t Yellen have the opportunity to do this but failed to? I don’t know. Just interested in what happened.
All I know is this: There is no way we could keep juicing the economy with massive deficit spending, adding a trillion in debt every 3 months.
All I know is this: There is no way we could keep juicing the economy with massive deficit spending, adding a trillion in debt every 3 months.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:27 pm to Ten Bears
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Stable genius. And he would have succeeded if not for the deep state and the globalists
hoo boy
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:28 pm to SloaneRanger
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There is no way we could keep juicing the economy with massive deficit spending, adding a trillion in debt every 3 months.
we still are...
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think it is about bringing manufacturing jobs back. And I think the result of that will be tariff induced inflation.
Will this cause interest rates to be lowered? There is a decent probability of this, right?
Will the inflation also cause a recession? That’s the million dollar question. If you were defining recession historically, then most likely.
Will this cause interest rates to be lowered? There is a decent probability of this, right?
Will the inflation also cause a recession? That’s the million dollar question. If you were defining recession historically, then most likely.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:31 pm to Warrior Court
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this is not a word.
Not sure if serious.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:32 pm to SloaneRanger
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Didn’t Yellen have the opportunity to do this but failed to? I don’t know. Just interested in what happened.
You have to balance the supply and demand for treasuries of different durations. Yellen certainly should have gone longer when she could, but you can’t just drop more supply or else you’ll INCREASE interest rates.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:55 pm to AGGIES
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I think it is about bringing manufacturing jobs back. And I think the result of that will be tariff induced inflation.
Will this cause interest rates to be lowered? There is a decent probability of this, right?
I believe this would raise rates, not reduce them.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:58 pm to slackster
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Yellen certainly should have gone longer when she could
As I said, I really don’t know but I do recall reading something to the effect that she had an opportunity to strike and passed on it.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The "refi plan" in shorthand terms, is a theory that Trump's tariff plan really doesn't have anything to do with tariffs, and the goal is not one of the 3 big ones that are rotated, but to cause a new recession in order to lower rates, so we can refinance about $9T in treasury bonds coming due.
Here are some threads started by MAGA people discussing it in detail.
In one of your +100 posts today you mentioned something about planning to have children......dude, when you're posting from 6AM in the morning until 10PM at night you're gonna have to get some help with the act of procreation because you don't have time. .....you certainly won't have time to raise children if you continue your obsessive posting on PT
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:03 pm to FireawayLSU
as you say, by definition ... it's been a recession
But since words have stopped meaning anything it's tough to pin down what anything means
And once they get you used to the higher prices, especially on things like staple foods, Eggs they're not gonna back down from that to pre-recession prices
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
SFP, You should have enough sense to realize that the tariffs are serving a number of purposes, and that one is obviously the refinancing of debt. It’s also true that they are to force other countries to be fair with us. How do we know this? Because Trump has been talking about it for 40 years. Another purpose of it is to reshore manufacturing, a core value of Donald Trump. A side benefit is that it will raise much needed revenues. It’s an awkward quasi tax, but since you’re doing it anyway…
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:05 pm to Bass Tiger
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you certainly won't have time to raise children if you continue your obsessive posting on PT
It’s fairly common for first time fathers to change their priorities when they have children. I know I did.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Here are some threads started by MAGA people discussing it in detail.
Trumps actions are by design to lower interest rates so we sell $9 trillion in new bonds
Hidden in the tariff news is the fact that the 10 year yield has dropped below 4%
Is Trump trying to Crash the Economy...
I asked grok how much did the bond market gain last week.
Mate I hope you composed this post from a poolside lounger at the St Regis Punta De Mita
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
Do you actually believe this?
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
Right.
The only way a refi-plan works is if inflation gets down and stays down in the 2% range. Even then i am not sure rates will be lowered by fall, but this is far outside my knowledge.
The only way a refi-plan works is if inflation gets down and stays down in the 2% range. Even then i am not sure rates will be lowered by fall, but this is far outside my knowledge.
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