If the Authoritarian Marxists are defeated it will be people of faith who lead the charge.

Christianity is the only answer we have to Marxism

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Disagree. I think you need some of us conservative nonbelievers to do some of the really dirty work.

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I welcome your offer…..and I’ll pray for you too….be safe.

Disagree with that guy. If you don’t see a correlation to people leaving the church and the moral degradation of our society you are blind. I’m not religious either

Evolva isn’t wrong. It is at the core of the religion. The Romans derided Christianity as a religion for women, children, and slaves — because it celebrated the weak and because the early church was pacifist.

Yet you have Just War Theory, and the Crusades. It did become martial religion. Or at least one that accepted the necessity for violence.

Orthodoxy is the best counterpoint though, and it suggests that our current weakness wasn’t inevitable.

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the Orthodox Church follows Christ and the apostles in teaching that the relative and morally ambiguous life of this world requires the existence of some form of human government which has the right and even the duty to “wield the sword” for the punishment of evil.

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- OCA

That attitude died in the West, but it still exists to this day in the East.

In 2002 the church declared Evgeny Aleksandrovich Rodionov a Saint. He was a Russian soldier who was executed by Chechen rebels after he refused to convert to Islam.

That’s Orthodoxy.



Christianity is necessary because it’s the only intellectual and moral framework we have to oppose Marxism. It presents a coherent set of values that opposes moral relativism and the crimes of the left.

This will bore most of you, but it’s Logos, and the concept that all life is connected and sacred. If you accept Logos, then all of this is a horrible sin and an abomination.


Modernity is built around Nominalism and the rejection of Logos. Nominalism declares that observed relationships, what we see with our eyes, that you and I are both human for example, are arbitrary definitions that we impose on the world.

Nominalism is an old and and incredibly dangerous idea, Plato said he would have destroyed it if he could have. Nominalism birthed the enlightenment pushing us to tinker with the world. The problem is that it denies the humanity in other people, which in turn permits us to do horrible things to them.

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Christianity and the Catholic Church no longer confronts evil. Its all, "love your neighbor" and "don't judge" nonsense.

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Yes

To stand for something also means having the courage to stand against something.

If you’re not willing to confront evil, then you don’t actually have any values.

The Protestant churches are much worse though. The Episcopalians are a full blown heresy.

A Christian understands that nations rise and nations fall. No nation is eternal save for one. True Christianity is being concerned with eternity, with right and wrong, with being pleasing and acceptable to an almighty God. However, when God's own chosen people turned away from Him and toward idolatry, paganism, and corruption, He allowed them to be defeated and carried off into captivity and enslaved.

Our nation has turned its back on God and we aren't the chosen ones. If He allowed Israel to fall into captivity due to their corruption, what makes anyone think that He wouldn't allow our nation to learn a lesson the hard way too?

I love my country and I want to see her prosper, but until celebrated immorality and certain fundamental ills are addressed and dealt with, there is no road back for us to prosperity.

Yes, I believe your statement is correct. Unfortunately, I don't believe we have enough people of faith to overcome the evil that have become the accepted norm in our nation over the past fifty years or more. We rose higher than Rome ever dreamed and we have become more corrupt and depraved than Caligula's sickest fetish. The medicine required to overcome this illness is most definitely not going to taste good.

People don’t need control. They need direction. Doesn’t matter what that is. The church can be that for some people. The imbeciles you see on tv burning shite to the ground and acting a fool are lost people with no direction

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Would you be specific?

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Violence

I fear that your assessment is spot on, SA. Pure Democracy and coercion by whichever Ideological group holds power puts those who see the controlling power as evil, in a bind. Christianity purports to serve Universal Live, per the “Logos” principle presented above. Though violent means may serve loving ends, in those who understand and are not derailed in their journey towards greater love, there would be no (Spiritual) harm. But for those who do not understand and are encouraged to impose their own morality via violent means, down they go to Hitler’s hell. We can only decide for ourself, our response to aggression which we perceive as evil, from people who perceive us as evil. Letting someone else do the dirty work to ensure that Truth remains uncensored, in hope of gaining brownie points in a next life, seems irrational. If not downright irresponsible border on evil. There needs to be a really honest and public debate, before we throw down. We owe that much to all the innocents that will be woefully harmed, if things go to the street. Be well. God speed.