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re: If the Authoritarian Marxists are defeated it will be people of faith who lead the charge.

Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:28 pm to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:28 pm to
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Written in 1925, On Resistance to Evil by Force is one of the most important tracts composed by white émigré philosopher Ivan Alexandrovich Ilyin. Responding to the pacifist pretentions of Count Leo Tolstoy, Ilyin mounts a tenacious defence of the Orthodox tradition of physical opposition to evil.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55769 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:31 pm to
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Honestly, it’s going to be immigrants both legal and otherwise leading the charge. We have millions here who have fled those types of regimes and they are some of the most vocal people you’ll meet when it comes to how they feel about what’s going on. From my interactions with them I hear a lot of stories about fleeing Cuba or fleeing Venezuela and they are pissed that it’s popping up here


Many of the illegal immigrants coming into the US across the southern border are Catholic/Christian….you would hope they would help oppose the current authoritarian regime but if history is any indication they will lay low politically speaking and when they’re able to vote (legally or illegally) in their new homeland they will vote at a +70% clip for the American Marxist party.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46873 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:32 pm to
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Bull shite. You sound like a false flag lefty.

Other answers:

- sanity
- reason
- common sense
- facts
- science
- intelligence
- history
- math
The Christian God is what makes those things make sense.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33197 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:34 pm to
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Disagree with that guy. If you don’t see a correlation to people leaving the church and the moral degradation of our society you are blind. I’m not religious either

I agree, religion left me I didn’t leave religion.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:40 pm to
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going to be immigrants


Immigration destroys social cohesion and trust.

It prevents us from acting.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28192 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 11:01 pm to
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Orthodoxy is the best counterpoint though, and it suggests that our current weakness wasn’t inevitable.


Honest question, do you think the Eastern Orthodox Church is the only church that preaches that? It’s pretty mainstream in conservative churches of various labels.
Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2948 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 11:04 pm to
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The Christian God is what makes those things make sense.


The organized Christian Church disagrees (at least many in my hometown).


Religious beliefs are not the answer to defeat other religious beliefs, another handicap of the American right.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28192 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 11:11 pm to
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Religious beliefs are not the answer to defeat other religious beliefs, another handicap of the American right.


All values are “religious.” Keep asking “why” enough times and you can’t support your values any more than a Christian or a Hindu. You’ll end up at “just because” every single time.
Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2948 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 11:23 pm to
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All values are “religious.” Keep asking “why” enough times and you can’t support your values any more than a Christian or a Hindu. You’ll end up at “just because” every single time.


The consequences of Marxism and socialism can be tracked and the damage measured; no legend, myths, or dogma necessary.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 1:52 am to
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Real Christianity isn't the milqetoaste version you get from most pulpits.

Christianity and the Catholic Church no longer confronts evil. Its all, "love your neighbor" and "don't judge" nonsense




As much as I personally reject religious dogma, I can't wait to see some of my Christian friends go Old Testament on these Marxists.
Posted by smh4wg
Member since May 2021
777 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 2:25 am to
Dang. You frickin nailed it.
Posted by Torqued Pork
Malvern
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 2:27 am to
What's Christianity's record against Marxists and fascist revolutions?
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
54026 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 2:41 am to
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 2:47 am to
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Immigration destroys social cohesion and trust.

It prevents us from acting.

Absolutely. This isnt a point of contention in academia. It’s understood.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55609 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 4:53 am to
Happy to have y’all on board, but it will be freedom loving people who who reclaim our rights. Generally, if they had their way, “people of faith” would oppress us as well - just with a different set of rules.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19469 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 6:59 am to
There is no division in Christ.


Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39725 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 9:04 am to
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There is no division in Christ.



True, for Believers; but there is great contention as to the 'fine details' of the interpretation of Judeo Christian Theology. Whether to employ the 'sword', is one of those. We all know the story of Peter in the Garden with Jesus, and the 'severed ear' of one of Jesus' attackers. And Jesus response to Peter as well. IRL, was the World better off by trading Jesus for the Pharisees and Pilate, et al.?

The whole of Jesus' Gospel is for supposed Spiritual advancement toward a Human (Perceptive) state of mind ("Heaven") which 'explains' the mystery of Death, and therein negates the negative psychological effects of 'Death'. And it is the Natural and innate fear of death, which is a prime impetus for Darwinian competition and "wailing and gnashing of teeth". The Gospel argues that an Individual's current perceptive Reality is but a temporal and transitory place, on an eternal path to perceptive glory. I.e., "Heaven"; said 'Heaven' being a perceived Feeling and scenario of total Love, Unity and Peace. Of course - as Perceived Reality - is ultimately Subjective and a product of Free Will, it is left to the Individual to validate and totally COMMIT to the values of Love, and the Mercy of Jesus' Offer therein. Such a 'commitment' (IMO) would be the "saved" of Evangelical Christian dogma.

Of course, a rejection and invalidation of the Idea of Love (and Jesus' Offer), would have obvious perceptual paradigm consequences. They can have my share of that.

In this particular 'Perceptive Paradigm'/Time, we witness all manner of potential Beliefs, actions, consequences and 'feelings'...as a 'buffet' of potential choice. As such, a Paradigm of this nature will NEVER reflect "no division in Christ"...nor should it. 'Adam' left the 'Garden' to educate himself as to ALL potential scenarios; in order to make an educated and valid choice. The Gospel says that once an individual has enough info to make that educated choice, it is simply a matter of Commitment (being "saved", via Jesus' Mercy) for said individual to wake up in much better perceptive Reality in the next life. Being relieved of Karmic consequences which would otherwise negatively apply.

I remember some Preacher from Baton Rouge saying that when he gets to the 'Pearly Gate'...he don't want Justice, but Mercy. When I heard that, I laughed, and wholeheartedly agreed. There is nothing to be proud of when one becomes a true Christian. We are on 'welfare', as it were. That said, we are also "bought with a price". So the issue then becomes the subject of this Thread. Do we fight and shed Earthly blood of many who (mistakenly) oppose us/our Beliefs/Actions as "Father forgive them for they know not what they do" Actors...or do we 'cut off ears'?

Bottom line (IMO): There is no common rule for action. It could be sin ( sin being belief/action which negatively affects the forward progress toward Love) for one person to shed blood in a particular scenario...and sin for that same person not to shed blood for Love and Truth, in another scenario. I would never 'judge' another person's action; as I could not know where they stand in the 'education process'.

One thing is for sure, the (Marxist) Idea of all people being equal (real equity) is neither true or just in Mother Nature, or God's paradigm of Individuals who 'go to Heaven' being rewarded "according to their works". There will never be coerced equality on Earth...or in Heaven. Nor should there be. Even, and especially 'Lucifer', would agree with that.

Can ramble forever.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63834 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 9:09 am to
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Judeo Christian Theology.


Here's part of the problem with modern Christianity. This term wasn't even really used prior to the 20th century.

As others in this thread have pointed out, Christianity of today is much different than Christianity of centuries past. It's been neutered.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46873 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:52 am to
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The consequences of Marxism and socialism can be tracked and the damage measured; no legend, myths, or dogma necessary.
Your problem here lies in the word "damage". You are assuming some moral standard when you use that term.

Where in the natural plane of existence does morality exist and where is it spelled out what is objectively moral and immoral? Where can I look to know that Marxism is objectively evil regardless of personal feelings and preferences?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28192 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:54 am to
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The consequences of Marxism and socialism can be tracked and the damage measured; no legend, myths, or dogma necessary.


I don’t disagree but that has nothing to do with what I said.
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