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re: If Drag Queens intentions are pure, why don't they simply wear their everyday clothes
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:30 am to Bourre
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:30 am to Bourre
quote:And I think that you are conflating a quiet book reading in a library with a burlesque performance at a drag bar or strip club. They are rather different events with VERY different considerations, yet you seem to be equating them.
The problem most sane adults have is exposing children to these shows and encouraging children to participate, including shoving dollars bills in dancer’s underwear.
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This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 11:38 am
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:31 am to Bourre
quote:This from a guy who accused me of pedophilia, based upon confusing me with another poster. A guy who was corrected by three DIFFERENT posters and who has still not withdrawn his defamatory accusation.
You still don’t get it.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:33 am to oogabooga68
Pride Month has triggered the frick out of this board.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:37 am to Othello
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Pride Month has emboldened pedophiles and their enablers
Fixed it for you, no charge.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:37 am to AggieHank86
quote:Ask your friend if he thinks Coulrophobia should be considered a hate crime.
My best buddy is a lawyer in his 50s. To this day, he is terrified of clowns.
I absolutely agree that parents of kids with Coulrophobia should have the option of opting-out.
quote:Serious question: do you think the latter event would have happened without the former event happening beforehand?
And I think that you are conflating a quiet book reading in a library with a burlesque performance at a drag bar or strip club. They are rather different events with VERY different considerations.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:37 am to Othello
quote:
Pride Month has triggered the frick out of the world
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:39 am to oogabooga68
quote:Yea, and this right here should be reason numero uno for why DFACS should take these kids and put them in foster homes. What's so sad is that they will take kids from parents for anything but that, especially if they are white folks.
The people who take their kids to such an event or dismiss it as a personal decision to take kids to such a wholly inappropriate setting are idiots and virtu-signaling narcissists who want everyone to see how Socially evolved they are.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:41 am to oogabooga68
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Imagine the heads exploding if there were a MAGA story time. Perhaps good Patriots should approach the Public Libraries where these demented fks are spitting in the face of decency and demand MAGA Storytime, then SUE when inevitably they are denied.
Civil war Reenactment story hour. Some guy dressed in Rebel Gray with a battle flag reading Uncle Remus stories to the kids. If this should not be allowed, why?
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:44 am to Dawgfanman
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Civil war Reenactment story hour. Some guy dressed in Rebel Gray with a battle flag reading Uncle Remus stories to the kids. If this should not be allowed, why?
I regret i have but one upvote to give you, sir
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:44 am to Othello
This the new "muh why does the right keep talking about pedos" deflection?
This discussion is not about pride month.
This discussion is not about pride month.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:45 am to FearlessFreep
quote:I doubt he would feel that way. I certainly do not, just as I don't think homophobia should be a "hate crime." OR whatever name might apply to "fear of drag performers."
My best buddy is a lawyer in his 50s. To this day, he is terrified of clowns.quote:
Ask your friend if he thinks Coulrophobia should be considered a hate crime.
I think the entire concept of a "hate crime" is stupid and duplicative of existing crimes.
On the other hand, I do think that making false and defamatory statements about a given clown, homosexual or drag performer should subject the speaker to liability.
quote:Probably not. Just like MMA (barbarous, IMO) would not have existed without boxing (slightly less barbarous, IMO) or wrestling (not so bad) as a precursor. And Debbie Does Dallas would not exist, without Charlie Chaplin and Gone with the Wind as precursors. Internet scat porn would not exist without AmericaOnline as a precursor.
And I think that you are conflating a quiet book reading in a library with a burlesque performance at a drag bar or strip club. They are rather different events with VERY different considerations.quote:
Serious question: do you think the latter event would have happened without the former event happening beforehand?
Any innocuous thing can be taken to extremes.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 11:51 am
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:46 am to AggieHank86
quote:
who has still not withdrawn his defamatory accusation.
Because frick you. Go cry some more, groomer
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:48 am to AggieHank86
quote:
AggieHank86
And yet again, you pretend to be one thing while defending the left push of anything.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:49 am to AggieHank86
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Replace "evil" with "narcissistic entitlement," and I will largely agree with you.
Then we will never agree. It's EVIL to groom kids. Period.
quote:
These drag performers at Story Hour are not much different than every other "me, me, me, look at MEEEEE" person in today's society. They want an event/atmosphere of which THEY are the centerpiece.
And here is Hank again defending a major leftist talking point while pretending to be conservative.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:59 am to Jjdoc
quote:Where we do not agree lies in the notion one is "grooming" kids (for eventual sexual contact) by reading to them in outlandish costumes. These drag performers are seeking attention and perhaps acceptance/validation. They are not seeking sexual gratification.
Replace "evil" with "narcissistic entitlement," and I will largely agree with you.quote:
Then we will never agree. It's EVIL to groom kids. Period.
Honestly, I don't think that most of you folks have a CLUE what "grooming" actually is. You have just decided to use that term to describe ANY exposure of kids to individuals you believe to be sexual deviants, probably because it sounds really scary.
ACTUAL "grooming" is a first-person activity, by which a specific predator cultivates a relationship with a specific potential victim, with the aim of obtaining sexual gratification from that potential victim.
So you take a scary term for a reprehensible activity, and start applying it to activities that do not REMOTELY fall within the definition.
99% of what you call "grooming" is more akin to "desensitization" ... a process of making the members of a group less sensitive to an activity that might previously have been considered inappropriate.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:59 am to oogabooga68
It’s not about being pure. It never was.
I would have far less issue with drag queen story times if it was completely age and subject matter appropriate, and optional for kids to attend with parent’s full consent.
Drag queens are ultimately characters, so I don’t have issue with that necessarily, but injecting adult themes, content, gestures, outfits, language, names, dancing, etc. to kids is flat out wrong.
I put it in a similar category as comedians: it’s a persona a person develops, and while it can be kid friendly, it usually isn’t. So if you’re going to mix the two, it better be squeaky fricking clean.
I would have far less issue with drag queen story times if it was completely age and subject matter appropriate, and optional for kids to attend with parent’s full consent.
Drag queens are ultimately characters, so I don’t have issue with that necessarily, but injecting adult themes, content, gestures, outfits, language, names, dancing, etc. to kids is flat out wrong.
I put it in a similar category as comedians: it’s a persona a person develops, and while it can be kid friendly, it usually isn’t. So if you’re going to mix the two, it better be squeaky fricking clean.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:05 pm to ibldprplgld
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adult themes,
Drag “queens” are an inherently adult theme. They might be less adult than stripper reading hour where the kids insert nickels into her twat in exchange for ten minutes of reading, but they’re a lot closer to that than they are Mrs Claus reading Rudolph.
And for all of you with evolving morals, please don’t treat that as a suggestion.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:05 pm to AggieHank86
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Because one is adults taking shots at one another. The other is taking shots at children
Now ole Hank is worried about the chillins!!
After all, these perverts only want to read to the kids...they surely don't want to influence them in wanting to be like them!!
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:07 pm to ibldprplgld
I'll go on record as saying I don't think there is anything particularly refined or worldly about going to drag shows and I think it's pretty weird to insinuate otherwise.
We're not talking about world class performers or venues here. If someone said they'd never seen a live performance of the theatrical arts in any form, I'd say sure, you should, it's a genre a well-rounded person should experience whether you like or not. But I know a lot of very well educated and successful people and I've never perceived that attending drag shows/burlesque performances is used as a litmus test. Seems rather silly.
We're not talking about world class performers or venues here. If someone said they'd never seen a live performance of the theatrical arts in any form, I'd say sure, you should, it's a genre a well-rounded person should experience whether you like or not. But I know a lot of very well educated and successful people and I've never perceived that attending drag shows/burlesque performances is used as a litmus test. Seems rather silly.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:14 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
I'll go on record as saying I don't think there is anything particularly refined or worldly about going to drag shows and I think it's pretty weird to insinuate otherwise.
There isn't, it was just typical virtue-signalling bullisht from a cartoon character.
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