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re: I wish socialism could work

Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:24 am to
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:24 am to
If mankind was infallible communism could be beautiful. But alas sin entered the world which makes communism not function in our world.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
116125 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:25 am to
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It does okay in Scandinavian countries and the Netherlands


To the extent it's "successful" there is because until very recently they paid nothing for their own defense (we did), thus, the $ they would spend on that can go to other things. Also, their low drug costs are subsidized by the American buyer. Small and up until the last decade homogeneous populations help.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 6:32 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6388 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:30 am to
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It does okay in Scandinavian countries and the Netherlands

Probably because none of those are true socialist countries. All have a robust capitalist structure with strong social programs.

But none are socialist and none claim to be.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139981 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:31 am to
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I wish socialism could work
Oh, it sometimes does work .... for a while ....“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money”
Posted by Kikicaca
1 Mile from the Atchafalaya
Member since Nov 2016
2464 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:33 am to
Let's apply socialism to the 100 yard dash. As we all know blacks are generally genetically faster. Applying socialism to the 100 yard dash we would have to give most other races a 1 to 2 yard head start for equality. In fact let's do that and see how black DEMOCRAT sprinters react to that.
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Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
22288 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:35 am to
This. The “free” stuff is good at first until you realize that it’s your high tax rate funding everybody and the government siphons off the rest.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
25032 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:38 am to
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A high trust flock that has an understanding of building for the future... Stepping stones towards a common goal..



You know, in early Christianity, they tried what would be called socialism?

Even in the purest of people (this included the Apostles after all), it failed because some of the people who were able didn't work.

If it couldn't work there, it won't work anywhere.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139981 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:53 am to
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The “free” stuff is good at first
It's why Mamdani will be able to claim success with Government grocery stores funded by raiding police & fireman's pension trust funds, while anti-intellectual rote dependents swallow the yarn, hook line and sinker.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
38815 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:16 am to
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I wish socialism could work



Why wish for something you know absolutely cannot work?
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
887 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:18 am to
Whether we want to face facts or not, we’re headed for an AI driven communism, where everyone has UBI, after AI and robotics wipe out the labor markets if you believe the Elon Musk’s of the world
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30476 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:27 am to
Pipe dream bullshite trying to justify socialism. "It's not socialism's fault it's a failure. It's people and the system." fricking pathetic.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
3087 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:34 am to
you would have loved the 70's boy we taxed our most productive citizens back into the middle class so that our slacker class could live above their means! you could sack groceries and own a home with a stay at home mom!

it was a paradise for the non ambitious!
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16177 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:37 am to
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It does okay in Scandinavian countries and the Netherlands.


It’a very important that you understand that you are completely wrong.

Do you understand that you are completely wrong?

Just like the Covid vax, the gender bullshite, defunding police, open borders, and all the other things that you liberals are completely wrong on that will hurt our future generations, you are completely wrong and it is leading us down a path to an inevitable civil war.

Do you understand this?
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9745 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:51 am to
Congratulations, you recognize the fall of the first government in the original colony.

Everyone gets an equal share regardless of the amount done to produce.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
2459 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:12 am to
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The theory is honestly quite beautiful. But, this world we find ourselves in is unfortunately an unequal place. High output humans will never want to share their productivity with the lazy or less fortunate, at least not at scale.


People need to understand that:

1) the architects of communism considered socialism a transitional (not permanent) phase on the way to implementation of communism.

2) communism is about much more than just economic/production policy.

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Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16886 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:17 am to
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high trust flock that has an understanding of building for the future... Stepping stones towards a common goal.. The theory is honestly quite beautiful.




It's an evil counterfeit of the City of Enoch, without the common belief system and morality. Instead of submission to God and His Prophet, government is the higher power and administrators lead the way.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
24074 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:17 am to
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The way I see it: Any attempt to implement Socialism is either an honest fools errand, or a devilish hijacking of the cause.


Human greed stands in the way.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
90453 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:20 am to
It works on a small level.


Some co ops work. But you will never be able to scale that up.





Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93909 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:25 am to
what an infantile and moronic post.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
66466 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:27 am to
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It does okay in Scandinavian countries and the Netherlands.


Liar.
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