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re: I reject the idea that young adults/millennials “have it harder” than boomers at that age

Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:21 am to
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14473 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:21 am to
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but it’s only a problem for people who didn’t use their college years to obtain a marketable degree. 

Tell that to the engineer graduates that end up having to take a night shift job as a lab tech.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16536 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:21 am to
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Same generation that didn’t even need a degree to find work and afford a house.


You can still work and buy a house without a degree. Such moronic statements you've made so far in this thread but typical of the low-grade, shallow thinking behind your arguments. You fail to understand the difference between "wants" and "needs". A smart phone isn't needed, a new vehicle isn't needed, a college degree isn't needed. Taking out loans for college degrees aren't needed either, my fiancée put herself through college, dental school, her Ph.D, and her residency program without dime of loan debt. $550,000 worth of education and she owes nobody a penny because while her peers were spending their loan money on clothes, vacation trips, and avocado toast; she was writing applications for scholarships, working odd jobs, and cooking her own meals. Spoiled ignorance is the guiding principle of most Millennials today.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19417 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:21 am to
I agree with this.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66396 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:22 am to
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lol no


Strong rebuttal
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259859 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:22 am to
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You can still work and buy a house without a degree.


Absolutely

It requires physical work and sacrifice though, which most young people don't care for...
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14473 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:24 am to
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The problem is that many kids want now all of the material things their parents took a lifetime to acquire.


Nah, we just want enough to afford a Nissan Altima and a fixer upper starter home.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27778 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:26 am to
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And probably 30 years of networking.


Probably cold calling. I know the industries where I could find work, and I know the type of companies that could use someone like me.
I could do this in almost any area, with at least some medium/heavy industry.
That first job that I found, might not be great, but it's a start. Then again, it might be perfect.

Posted by Jumbo_Gumbo
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2015
5691 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:27 am to
the only thing i notice is that the world seems more fast paced today than it did 10-15 years ago. I blame technology. Other than that, there is no excuse that can be made by anyone as to why they can’t do something, or difficulty to achieve success.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78319 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:27 am to
Lol, "head in the sand". Having your "head in the sand" is now I guess what you call historical economic literacy. And also remembering what it was actually like to live in this country 40-50 years ago. Remembering how young my great grandparents died of diseases now easily cured. Remembering the 18% interest rate my parents paid on my childhood home. Remembering the planned obsolescence of all the cars we owned. Remembering that 90% of the families I knew growing up in the 70's had 1500 square feet or less houses. Your frame of reference is like looking out the window from noon to 1 pm and thinking you can tell us what happened in the other 23 hours. It's a tiny little slice of generational self pity.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:28 am to
unlike boomers who fled the cities (almost every major city on the eastern seaboard lost significant population in the 60s,70s,80s

I knew more than a few that bugged out to go find themselves. I would always tell them " Damn, man you're right here." They didn't know where the hell they were, and still don't. We called em Hippies.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:28 am to
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The homes people lived in, the cars people drove 30 years ago, most Millennials would not touch today.





What? I lived in the LSU dorms circa 2005. I can assure you that they had not been touched in 30 years. They have only become nicer in the past few years. Millenials didn't get to use them.

Then I lived in Houston and New Orleans, again in apartments that probably hadn't been touched in decades.

Maybe rich kids have it different, but I didn't move into a "nicer" place until I was 30.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 11:29 am
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66396 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:29 am to
Now tell me about college tuition putting you back a decade.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66396 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:32 am to
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It requires physical work and sacrifice though, which most young people don't care for...


Yeah because baby boomers were always laying brick and learning foreign languages instead of watching Animal House.

Kids do what kids do. You act as if, with our current technology, you all would have used your phone to learn Farsi.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3630 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:33 am to
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Your frame of reference is like looking out the window from noon to 1 pm and thinking you can tell us what happened in the other 23 hours. It's a tiny little slice of generational self pity.


Pot meet kettle
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:36 am to
The first-ever spoiled generation has an opinion on who is spoiled.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57074 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:37 am to
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College costs much more (adjusting for inflation) for "marketable" degrees too. Any it's not just tuition. It's fees, textbooks, dorms, etc.
Still just an excuse. No one makes you go to college. If it costs more than its worth... don’t go. If you think it’s worth the investment STFU and pay your bills.

It’s really that simple. Don’t purchase something voluntarily then b*tch about what it costs. That’s why millenials get labeled as whiners.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7994 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:38 am to
It depends on what you mean by “have it harder”.

Education, healthcare, and housing are objectively much more expensive in real terms and swallow up a much larger chunk of paychecks than they did forty years ago. Older Millennials graduated into the teeth of the worst economic downturn in eighty years as well. The competition in the labor markets (both white collar and blue collar) is way more intense than it used to be.

On the other hand, many other goods - tradeable goods like food, technology, and so forth - are much cheaper than they used to be in real terms. Access to information is dirt cheap, basically free in most instances. The technical quality of services like healthcare and education is better than it has ever been.

It’s a trade off - some things are better. Some worse.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57074 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:39 am to
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Tell that to the engineer graduates that end up having to take a night shift job as a lab tech.
happily.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69234 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:40 am to
You people act like the only thing going in someone’s life after they graduate is college debt

There is a lot more to the story

General fall in price of consumer goods (electronics, food, clothing)

Increased quality of what you buy

Increased quality of medicine

iPhone
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57074 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:41 am to
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You can still work and buy a house without a degree.
Of course. My Nigerian friend will easily be shopping for a house in Redmond. No degree. Just a smartphone and some discipline.
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