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re: I just don’t understand how Haiti has all these problems

Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:26 am to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:26 am to
All the good baseball players were born on the other side of the island. That's the reason Haiti can't be successful... lack of good baseball players.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:28 am to
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Well, the West extracted all their natural resources.


They sold, for very cheap, a lot of their natural resources, and all the money went to a few corrupt people.

The very few wealthy in that country sold out their own countrymen for short term gain.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:30 am to
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All these 3rd world shitholes should he given an ultimatum... either the west cuts off all aid or your country agrees to become under governship from America or another western country.


No. Please, no more nation building

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It is absurd that we have to fork out billions of dollars to these corrupt governments that can't run their countries. If they want the gravy train, then at least let us put someone in charge who can run their country properly.


Make all future aid a no-interest loan, but if they default on payment, we get an interest in something.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:38 am to
I've been to Haiti once and Jamaica once. I'd highly recommend to anyone that they go. It's eye opening for sure. Get out of the resort areas if you feel comfortable.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:45 am to
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I've been to Haiti once and Jamaica once. I'd highly recommend to anyone that they go. It's eye opening for sure. Get out of the resort areas if you feel comfortable.


No thanks. I don't want to end up in a BBQ, with me as the main course.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37657 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:49 am to
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I've been to Haiti once and Jamaica once. I'd highly recommend to anyone that they go. It's eye opening for sure. Get out of the resort areas if you feel comfortable.



Never been to Haiti but have been all over Jamaica. This is when the US had travel warnings about the country, Not sure what I was thinking.....It was an eye opener for sure, That and Central America: Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala was eye opener of the same sort.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37126 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:18 am to
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I've been to Haiti once and Jamaica once. I'd highly recommend to anyone that they go. It's eye opening for sure. Get out of the resort areas if you feel comfortable.


Just traveling around in Jamaica if you are going on an excursion, you realize that what we have as "poor" here in the US is a very good standard of living in Jamaica.

Same can be said for the Mexican mainland once you get away from the touristy coast cities. Taking a bus to a historical site... entire villages with no running water.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:22 am to
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Last I checked, sugar and coffee are renewable resources.



Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:24 am to
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They sold, for very cheap, a lot of their natural resources, and all the money went to a few corrupt people.

The very few wealthy in that country sold out their own countrymen for short term gain.


That's the typical pattern in these former colonial areas. There isn't really an easy fix.

You can't skip steps in development and just emerge in the developed world. This goes back to the foundational, core belief in Tabula Rasa that Leftism reverts into.

The ultimate irony is that this was a former Leftist argument explaining how the USSR "wasn't real communism", because the same socio-economic "step skipping" is why Russia could never become true Marxism.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:35 am to
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Just traveling around in Jamaica if you are going on an excursion, you realize that what we have as "poor" here in the US is a very good standard of living in Jamaica.


Went on a cruise with a few other couples several years ago. Got off the boat in Monteho Bay and took a shuttle to a resort. It was really bad.

Way, way worse than anything I've experienced to and from an airport or resort in any other country.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12965 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:35 am to
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Well, the West extracted all their natural resources.


Maybe they shouldn’t have had a corrupt shitty government susceptible to outside influences?
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
2987 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:37 am to
Remember all that cash that went there from the Clinton Foundation?

Yeah, neither do the Haitians.

This is why people know the Ukraine crap is a shell game as well.
Posted by HBDTigaz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
69 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:41 am to
Haiti:
ongoing political violence and corruption
inmates ruling the asylum
went broke paying back debt to France long ago and have been in poverty ever since
smart/rich/doctors/educated French all bailed on them years ago
voodoo
Aids/disease


Dominican:
strong central Bank $$
Good policies in place
Manufacturing took off b/c
CAFTA-DR-trade agreement w/the US*
Stronger education system
baseball
Tourism

Like Costa Rica(also falls under CAFTA) tourism is king and they all benefit from it and do their best to keep it safe for that reason, but not wanting to wind up in Panama/Columbia/Venezuela
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41155 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:50 am to
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Just traveling around in Jamaica if you are going on an excursion, you realize that what we have as "poor" here in the US is a very good standard of living in Jamaica.



Yep. Took the wife and kids on a little taxi ride. Went to Brown's Town and some other places. Eye opening is an understatement.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11206 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:57 am to
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All these 3rd world shitholes should he given an ultimatum... either the west cuts off all aid or your country agrees to become under governship from America or another western country.

Yes given our tremendous track record of success empowering local governments in third world cities like Jackson, MS and Flint, MI we will definitely knock it out of the park with our federal bureaucrats administering Haiti and Somalia.

America is successful despite our government, not because of it.

Our government needs to be fixed before we go around the world trying to take on other people's problems.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
1810 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:57 am to
Demographics matter!
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
2424 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 1:23 pm to
A non-stop line of corrupt power hungry governments with two tier politicized enforcement of laws, leads to everyone ignoring the law.

You can see it growing here in, looking at you doj, fbi and uni-party.

Haiti is the US in 10 years.
Posted by Wing T
Hooks, TX
Member since Aug 2022
379 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 1:47 pm to
Clinton Foundation is on Alert. They'll handle it.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7122 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 2:33 pm to
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Well, the West extracted all their natural resources.

Some of their stuff is really good…

Hoping no one messes with the distillery.
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