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I don’t get it. Is this supposed to be a negative story?

Posted on 6/11/26 at 8:55 am
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 8:55 am
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This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 7:28 am
Posted by DeBoar
Cullman, AL
Member since Jan 2024
2986 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 8:58 am to
You don’t just give up your citizenship and I bet none of them did.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26783 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:00 am to
There are a lot of Americans going into retirement who can live extremely well on SS alone in some foreign countries. I bet they will get mixed in with the propaganda statistics.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16494 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:02 am to
People that renounce their citizenship based on who is president, are the same people that ignore any bad news when their favored president is in office

Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19759 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:07 am to
And these would be the people that are screwed if electronic banking goes tits up for a short period.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93692 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:09 am to
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You don’t just give up your citizenship and I bet none of them did.
like all those high-and-mighty celebrities who quietly snuck back into the US after boldly declaring MUH EUROPE IS BETTER
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
10127 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:12 am to
They certainly want to paint it as a negative and give this impression that thousands upon thousands of good Americans are willingly giving up citizenship due to the loss of “Mom and Apple Pie traditions like open borders, DEI, gender surgery on little kids, etc.” all because of that evil Orange King who also “says mean things”.

So yes, MSMPravda very much wants to promote The Narrative that America is being lost because Progressive advances are finally being challenged and in some cases, greatly curtailed.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6177 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:28 am to
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You don’t just give up your citizenship and I bet none of them did

This is the right answer.

No one ever gives up US citizenship. Way too many benefits to being a citizen.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6177 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:31 am to
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And these would be the people that are screwed if electronic banking goes tits up for a short period

Not really. Yes, it is very easy to live on SS alone in many, many countries, but people with the means to ex-pat, have much more to fall back on. Hell most keep bank accounts in their new country. It is very easy to set up a foreign back account. It is not taxable by tUSA, but you do have to report any account over $10K.
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 9:32 am
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
59626 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:48 am to
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You don’t just give up your citizenship and I bet none of them did.


A few thousand do each year. People like Piker will point to how it's a massive increase since 2009, but they'll purposely (or ignorantly) leave out that the increase is due almost completely on FATCA (Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act - a complex tax reporting system for Americans abroad, and for banking/compliance difficulties). They'll also purposely ignore that the average number of people applying for US citizenship far eclipses those leaving (average annual applications range ~800k-900k).

Posted by Sisyphus
Member since Feb 2014
2003 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 11:10 am to
Oh no, 0.00001% of our population, comprised of people who don't love our country, are leaving!

What ever shall we do?

Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31731 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 11:14 am to
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Why thousands of Americans are giving up their citizenship


More America for me bitches!
Posted by mikesliveisacheater
Member since Nov 2009
1519 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 11:16 am to
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There are a lot of Americans going into retirement who can live extremely well on SS alone in some foreign countries. I bet they will get mixed in with the propaganda statistics.


If you renounce your citizenship then you also give up your SS payments. That's why almost all retired expats don't renounce their citizenship. That and you never know if you might want to move back at some point.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139630 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 11:29 am to
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Klatt was looking for “somewhere different to be” for a variety of personal and political reasons when she left the US in 2016. “So when I came to New Zealand, it just kind of all clicked,” she said.

It was through dairy farming that she met her English husband, who was similarly living and working in New Zealand.

The two became New Zealand citizens together in May 2025. That was also when Klatt decided it was time to shake her US citizenship.

“I never felt overly patriotic or connected to the country,” Klatt said
Good for her .... and us.


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Often referred to as FATCA, the US law was enacted in 2010 but didn’t officially go into effect until 2014.

Most of the US citizens Americans Overseas advises are renouncing or considering renouncing their citizenship due to FATCA rather than political motivations, Durlacher said.
Thanks Obama.

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55961 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 11:34 am to
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The most depressing part of this article’s headline is that it doesn’t read, “millions are giving up their citizenship.”

The more of you that leave the merrier. I’m actually depressed it’s not a lot more that are leaving.



All those who are unhappy the US is not more like Canada, Australia, the UK etc. should renounce their US citizenship and pack their leftist asses up for greener leftist pastures. There are plenty of places around the world for the leftists to gather and live in their leftist Utopia.

America First/MAGA has no place to go, we're fighting like hell to keep the US as the bedrock of Western/Christian culture.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26400 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 11:41 am to
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A few thousand do each year. People like Piker will point to how it's a massive increase since 2009, but they'll purposely (or ignorantly) leave out that the increase is due almost completely on FATCA (Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act - a complex tax reporting system for Americans abroad, and for banking/compliance difficulties).


I lived in Singapore from 2010 to 2014. One day, I had to get something notarized, and the only place that could do it was the Consular Services section at the embassy.

On the wall there, they had a professionally printed “Schedule of Fees” for things like visas, new passport, etc.

At the bottom, there was a handwritten addition for renouncing US citizenship. They’d never had to deal with it before.

There are two countries that tax their citizens on all income, regardless of where they live in the world. Most others have huge waivers once you spend more than half the year outside your citizenship country.

In the US, more than 30 days stateside gets you the full bill, and that includes coming back for business meetings or personal matters like a funeral. I had to account for every single day’s location every year.

The other country that taxes its citizens similarly: Eritrea.
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 11:42 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6177 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 11:53 am to
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There are two countries that tax their citizens on all income, regardless of where they live in the world. 

The wife still cannot understand why tUSA does this. Of course she came here as an immigrant. I don't know why either. I find it funny that I have to declare all money made in a foreign economy, even if that money never comes to the USA.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
90255 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 11:57 am to
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New Zealand


I love how the people that call everyone racist moved to a country without Africans.



Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59626 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 12:32 pm to
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The wife still cannot understand why tUSA does this. Of course she came here as an immigrant. I don't know why either.


Deficit spending went off the rails during the GFC, seemed to be heading back to some semblance of being managed by people who gave at least a half-damn, but then veered back off into CrazyLand with COVID and have remained there ever since (and math dictates it will only increase).

As this continues, Congress has looked (and will continue to look) for more and more avenues to tax income without just blanket raising rates so high as to cause revolt.

See also: American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) of 2021 which now means that anyone selling something online for more than $600 total in a year would suddenly trigger an official tax document (prior to this it was hitting both $20,000 in gross sales and 200 individual transactions from a given site).
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