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re: I challenge any Biden voter to defend what's going on at the southern border.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:49 pm to Srobi14
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:49 pm to Srobi14
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I don’t think I can spend too much more discussing this. The notion that the American elite is Marxist is ridiculous and anyone that honestly believes it needs to revaluate their programming.
Large corporations have run our country and ran it directly into the ground. Nearly every action the government makes is for corporate interests because every politician is bought while legislation is drafted by corporate lobbyists. The media cheers because they are owned by those with similar interests.
All the fear and propaganda about communists has programmed Americans to garner support for actions not in their interests and or against their values.
So let me get this straight:
The American Elite/politicians are NOT Marxists and/or communists because they are influenced by, and get legislative direction from, corporate lobbyists; the same lobbyists who work for corporations that have their means of production located in Communist China, generate a significant portion of their revenues from Communist China, and in many cases are outright owned by investment groups operating out of Communist China?
This is your stance, yes? You are dismissing the idea that Marxist or Communist ideologies and motives have any influence whatsoever in American politics because the neoliberal neocons respond solely to corporate interests?
Interesting.
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:03 am to GUAPLORD
What we did about it was vote against the idiot currently in the white house who promised to open the border, a promise that was moronically kept even in a global health pandemic. U.S. gun owners cannot legally head down to the border and start shooting the invaders. Your challenging of law abiding gun owners to do so is contradictory to the point of stopping illegal immigration. The people you are mocking follow the law, in owning a gun and otherwise. The people you are siding with break the law. Democrats can see the distinction but stubbornly will not acknowledge it. Illegal immigrants belong in jail or deported. Why don't the democrats enforce the laws on the books? Objective question.
And miserable third world countries that do not allow gun ownership are not comparable to the U.S., a first world country with a functioning legal system. If a group of second amendment guys went down to the border and took up arms to defend the border, the Biden administration would have them arrested so fast your head would spin, and could do so justifiably. Killing an illegal immigrant is a crime. Now we are getting close to the truth -- democrats are into selective enforcement of laws that they like.
Law abiding citizens can only fight this invasion at the ballot box and in court. It's the Biden administration that is breaking the law, you know, the guys you voted for.
And miserable third world countries that do not allow gun ownership are not comparable to the U.S., a first world country with a functioning legal system. If a group of second amendment guys went down to the border and took up arms to defend the border, the Biden administration would have them arrested so fast your head would spin, and could do so justifiably. Killing an illegal immigrant is a crime. Now we are getting close to the truth -- democrats are into selective enforcement of laws that they like.
Law abiding citizens can only fight this invasion at the ballot box and in court. It's the Biden administration that is breaking the law, you know, the guys you voted for.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:06 am to Hawaiian Punch
China really isn't communist anymore.
Deng Xiaoping's economic reforms in the 1980s and 1990s led to a period of economic liberalization, much more akin to a free market these days.
They got rid of their fixed pricing system under those reforms and companies have a pricing system based on demand/supply rather than the state setting values. Companies are allowed to make a profit and produce what the market demands, which wouldn't have happened under a communist system.
So your logic relies on China being communist when any economist or economic historian would tell you that China really doesn't operate on a communist system anymore.
Let's break this down.
1) China really isn't communist and hasn't been since Deng's famous reforms in the 1980s.
2) Corporate lobbyists would lobby for *capitalism* and the fact that large foreign corporations can operate in China shows how much Deng's reforms have changed the way the country works.
3) American elite/politicians are not communist. At worst, you could argue that some politicians support social democracy but that's not the same thing as communism.
Do you really understand what communism is because you've described things that wouldn't really happen under a communist system?
Large foreign corporations making a profit is a feature of a capitalist system, not a communist one.
Interesting.
Deng Xiaoping's economic reforms in the 1980s and 1990s led to a period of economic liberalization, much more akin to a free market these days.
They got rid of their fixed pricing system under those reforms and companies have a pricing system based on demand/supply rather than the state setting values. Companies are allowed to make a profit and produce what the market demands, which wouldn't have happened under a communist system.
So your logic relies on China being communist when any economist or economic historian would tell you that China really doesn't operate on a communist system anymore.
quote:
The American Elite/politicians are NOT Marxists and/or communists because they are influenced by, and get legislative direction from, corporate lobbyists; the same lobbyists who work for corporations that have their means of production located in Communist China, generate a significant portion of their revenues from Communist China, and in many cases are outright owned by investment groups operating out of Communist China?
Let's break this down.
1) China really isn't communist and hasn't been since Deng's famous reforms in the 1980s.
2) Corporate lobbyists would lobby for *capitalism* and the fact that large foreign corporations can operate in China shows how much Deng's reforms have changed the way the country works.
3) American elite/politicians are not communist. At worst, you could argue that some politicians support social democracy but that's not the same thing as communism.
Do you really understand what communism is because you've described things that wouldn't really happen under a communist system?
Large foreign corporations making a profit is a feature of a capitalist system, not a communist one.
Interesting.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 1:08 am
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:29 am to nonu121
How’s the weather in Shanghai this time of year?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:35 am to Powerman
quote:shite the bed would have me believe you think they aren’t doing this on purpose. This was 100% the plan from day one to flood our borders when Biden came into office. This isn’t shitting the bed it’s anti American pieces of shite attempting to tear down this country from within
I'm not a Biden voter but this is the one issue where the administration has absolutely shite the bed and they aren't getting called on it hard enough
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:58 am to Hawaiian Punch
So let me get this straight,
You are suggesting that American multinational corporations that operate in China for cheap labor have become so enamored with "Communism" that they have decided to use their influence in American politics to redistribute their wealth? That's a pretty tough pill to swallow there.
You are suggesting that American multinational corporations that operate in China for cheap labor have become so enamored with "Communism" that they have decided to use their influence in American politics to redistribute their wealth? That's a pretty tough pill to swallow there.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 3:00 am
Posted on 7/30/21 at 5:20 am to nonu121
quote:
China really isn't communist anymore.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 6:53 am to Tall Tiger
quote:For probably the third time in this thread, I didn’t vote for him.
It's the Biden administration that is breaking the law, you know, the guys you voted for.
As far as the rest of your post, it’s contradictory to much of what you read and see here, particularly about 2A. It gets posted ad nauseam that 2A is not here just for hunting or collecting, but to defend against invaders and a tyrannical government.
Fast forward to now, and we have (what much of the right calls) an invasion taking place while a corrupt government is installed via a “stolen” election. The conditions are ripe for these “country boy can survive” types to defend their country, yet where are they?
Busy redrawing the next line in the sand, I suppose.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 7:53 am to tarzana
There is a little hope for you yet.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 7:59 am to tarzana
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I voted for Biden but to be honest, I had no idea he would allow this chaos at the border.
Did you miss the Democratic Debate where he (and every other person up there) said they were for open borders and free healthcare for Illegal Immigrants?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 8:05 am to Bass Tiger
i oppose this catholic-biden conspiracy to return usa to pre 1964 culture.
and my TD proposal stands as yet untested.
felony if you hire one.
applies to ceo and CFO if wrongdoer is corporate.
and my TD proposal stands as yet untested.
felony if you hire one.
applies to ceo and CFO if wrongdoer is corporate.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 8:55 am to CelticDog
quote:That’ll never happen. Cheap labor is something people have an interest in on both sides of the aisle. No one’s going to collaborate on that.
felony if you hire one.
applies to ceo and CFO if wrongdoer is corporate.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:11 am to tarzana
quote:
Well I voted Biden
Like I said, you are your ilk voted for this.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:14 am to tarzana
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I voted for Biden but to be honest, I had no idea he would allow this chaos at the border.
I mean, I get that he never actually campaigned and they kept the turnip locked up for as much as possible, but how could you possibly not know this would happen?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:31 am to ronricks
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Did you miss the Democratic Debate where he (and every other person up there) said they were for open borders and free healthcare for Illegal Immigrants?
He didn't actually listen to what any of the policies actually were. Nobody who voted for Biden did.
O.k., maybe not nobody. But I'd wager very few.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 9:33 am
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:34 am to The Maj
In the world of globalization, borders simply cannot exist between the haves and have nots... Why do you hate your brown, southern brothers so much?
Perhaps you would. be satisfied if all of the billions of people from across the globe crowded in to live with existing legal US citizens of the United States. Legal citizens of the United States have every right to limit the amount of people who are allowed to enter the country. This is a matter of preventing a further increase in health and safety problems. There is only so much in the way of available living space and other resources. This has nothing to do with hate.
Perhaps you would. be satisfied if all of the billions of people from across the globe crowded in to live with existing legal US citizens of the United States. Legal citizens of the United States have every right to limit the amount of people who are allowed to enter the country. This is a matter of preventing a further increase in health and safety problems. There is only so much in the way of available living space and other resources. This has nothing to do with hate.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:43 am to The Maj
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In the world of globalization, borders simply cannot exist between the haves and have nots... Why do you hate your brown, southern brothers so much?
But borders do exist...so civilization is possible
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