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re: I challenge any Biden voter to defend what's going on at the southern border.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:13 pm to GUAPLORD
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:13 pm to GUAPLORD
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That sounds a little far-fetched. I doubt such a group exists, but good on you anyway.
Well, there is a big group doing this to an extent already - the gov't. Otherwise I'm not aware of one, but I don't know why it's far-fetched. If there's nothing legal to get hung up on, it's a matter of organizing/funding buses. That's not terribly complicated.
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:14 pm to GUAPLORD
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You left out the part where I stated if the federal government refuses to secure the borders the states should take on that responsibility to protect their citizens….but that’s ok because you didn’t particularly like that answer.
Well wait. Take a break from moving the goalposts. It’s either an active invasion or it isn’t. If it is, then the border would not be secure so that renders your point moot. If it isn’t an invasion (which it isn’t), then what are you crying about?
I want to make sure I understand your position. Your position is when someone on a political forum makes the observation that America’s southern border is being overrun/invaded by illegal immigrants, the individual making the observation should go down and confront the tens of thousands of illegals coming across a border that spans thousands of miles? Lol! You little titty twister, now you’re just being silly.
I think my solution is the better option. If the federal government is incapable or unwilling to enforce immigration laws and security at the border then the border states should take on that responsibility within the parameters of the existing laws.
How do you like the direction of country since Biden was installed as president?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:18 pm to roadGator
quote:Beats me.
How many came across the border in June?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:19 pm to David_DJS
quote:I doubt very seriously there’s a group of civilians doing what you described. They may want to, but I don’t think it’s happening.
Well, there is a big group doing this to an extent already - the gov't. Otherwise I'm not aware of one, but I don't know why it's far-fetched. If there's nothing legal to get hung up on, it's a matter of organizing/funding buses. That's not terribly complicated.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:23 pm to Bass Tiger
They won't.
They can't.
And despite the utter destruction being wrought by these policies (economic, societal, health) they will dutifully vote for Biden and the Dems en masse in 2022.
They can't.
And despite the utter destruction being wrought by these policies (economic, societal, health) they will dutifully vote for Biden and the Dems en masse in 2022.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:26 pm to GUAPLORD
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I doubt very seriously there’s a group of civilians doing what you described. They may want to, but I don’t think it’s happening.
Thus, the effort to organize one, as I explained a few posts ago.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:28 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:It isn’t an invasion though.
I want to make sure I understand your position. Your position is when someone on a political forum makes the observation that America’s southern border is being overrun/invaded by illegal immigrants, the individual making the observation should go down and confront the tens of thousands of illegals coming across a border that spans thousands of miles? Lol! You little titty twister, now you’re just being silly.
quote:Again, you can’t have it both ways. There’s either an invasion or there isn’t.
I think my solution is the better option. If the federal government is incapable or unwilling to enforce immigration laws and security at the border then the border states should take on that responsibility within the parameters of the existing laws.
If there is an invasion, as you said above, then “federal government is incapable or unwilling to enforce immigration laws and security at the border” which is you contradicting yourself.
If it isn’t an invasion, then you’re crying over nothing.
It cannot be both. The federal government is either in control of the border or there’s an active invasion.
quote:Again, I’m not a fan. I didn’t vote for him. But I can’t trace any real serious problems of mine back to him. Sure, costs have gone up, but I’m still drawing breath in the greatest country ever conceived of. My life has changed more due to the CV than Biden’s presidency.
How do you like the direction of country since Biden was installed as president?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:31 pm to tarzana
quote:
America voted for this
You voted for this?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:34 pm to David_DJS
quote:Ah. How far along are you? Are you accepting donations?
Thus, the effort to organize one, as I explained a few posts ago.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:56 pm to GUAPLORD
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It isn’t an invasion though.
I think the word “invasion” is where you’re having an issue.
Let’s see if we can agree on some things here.
Are the illegal immigrants crossing the border breaking federal law?
Is it the responsibility of the federal government to secure the borders and protect US citizens?
Is the federal government doing their job of securing the borders and protecting US citizens?
Did the current installed president tell illegal immigrants to surge the border?
Did the illegal immigrants take Joe Biden at his word and surge the border?
I’ll save ya some time answering those questions….the answer is yes to all but one and you can probably figure which question is no.
So back to the word “INVASION”, that word really seems to be a sticking point with you and I assume it’s because there isn’t a military force pouring across the southern border….you got me.
I’ll defer to you to label what’s happening at the southern border, Biden called it a “surge”. Should we refer to over a million illegals crossing the southern border thus far in 2021 as insurgents? Help me out, I want you to be comfortable.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:58 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:
I challenge any Biden voter
You’re challenging a computer program in Beijing
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:10 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:But you said the reason you weren’t at the border defending this country was because that was the federal government’s job. Now you’re suggesting they aren’t in control?
Is the federal government doing their job of securing the borders and protecting US citizens?
You need to make your mind up.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:38 pm to GUAPLORD
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But you said the reason you weren’t at the border defending this country was because that was the federal government’s job. Now you’re suggesting they aren’t in control?
You need to make your mind up.
You’re pretty slow but I think you’re starting to get it.
Yes, it’s the federal government’s responsibility to secure the nations borders. If the federal government and the current administration are turning a blind eye to potentially millions of illegal immigrants entering the country while a pandemic is raging and they federal government won’t protect the American people then that responsibility should roll down to the states. If the citizenry has to take on the burden of securing the nation’s borders it probably means we’re in a situation of mass civil unrest…..the borders will not be a priority at that point.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:43 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:Great, so we agree.
You’re pretty slow but I think you’re starting to get it.
Yes, it’s the federal government’s responsibility to secure the nations borders. If the federal government and the current administration are turning a blind eye to potentially millions of illegal immigrants entering the country while a pandemic is raging and they federal government won’t protect the American people then that responsibility should roll down to the states. If the citizenry has to take on the burden of securing the nation’s borders it probably means we’re in a situation of mass civil unrest…..the borders will not be a priority at that point.
There is no invasion, and you like griping on the internet.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:51 pm to GUAPLORD
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quote:
How many came across the border in June?
Beats me.
This says a lot about you. You’re in a thread throwing out shite takes and you have no fricking clue what’s going on…good lord.
quote:
CBP Enforcement Numbers
In June 2021, CBP encountered 188,829 persons attempting entry along the Southwest Border. This total represented a five percent increase over May 2021.
That number is how many the CBP documented in June. They allowed 68k into the country. Who knows how many never encountered a CBP agent….thousands if not tens of thousands have come into the country this June with no documentation whatsoever.
Watch some news that actually reports the truth on this Biden Border Debacle. Listen to the American citizens who give their accounts of hundreds of illegals marching through their property along the border.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:55 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:Because I don’t track the numbers of a nonexistent invasion? Okay.
This says a lot about you. You’re in a thread throwing out shite takes and you have no fricking clue what’s going on…good lord.
quote:So now you’re back on the invasion soapbox, since the federal government is not in control of the border.
That number is how many the CBP documented in June. They allowed 68k into the country. Who knows how many never encountered a CBP agent….thousands if not tens of thousands have come into the country this June with no documentation whatsoever.
Watch some news that actually reports the truth on this Biden Border Debacle. Listen to the American citizens who give their accounts of hundreds of illegals marching through their property along the border.
You change your mind like my preteen daughter.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:17 pm to TigerCoon
quote:
You voted for this
I voted for Biden but to be honest, I had no idea he would allow this chaos at the border.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:21 pm to tarzana
quote:
all, border officials encountered migrants there 188,829 times, the largest number in a single month in recent history.
You voted for and got this invasion. Good job.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:31 pm to GUAPLORD
[quote]This says a lot about you. You’re in a thread throwing out shite takes and you have no fricking clue what’s going on…good lord.
Because I don’t track the numbers of a nonexistent invasion? Okay.[/quote]
Hold on now, I told you in an earlier post I wanted you to be comfortable. I invited you to call what’s going on at the southern border whatever term or word you feel comfortable using. We do agree there’s some crazy shite going down on the southern border don’t we?
You know what, let’s see if we can get away from that nasty old word…..
INVASION!!!! INVASION!!!!
.I’m just messing with ya. Rather than allowing your tangential mind to wander let’s just focus/track on the OP challenge.
Are you in some weird way trying to defend Biden’s Border Debacle?
Oh wait a minute, I did ask for Biden voters to defend Biden’s Border Debacle but you claim you didn’t vote Trump or Biden. That’s ok, you can still participate.
Are you defending Biden’s Border Debacle? And if you’re not why are you so invested in this thread?
You don’t fool me at all, I’ve looked at your post history and it’s obvious your case of TDS has been left untreated.
Because I don’t track the numbers of a nonexistent invasion? Okay.[/quote]
Hold on now, I told you in an earlier post I wanted you to be comfortable. I invited you to call what’s going on at the southern border whatever term or word you feel comfortable using. We do agree there’s some crazy shite going down on the southern border don’t we?
You know what, let’s see if we can get away from that nasty old word…..
INVASION!!!! INVASION!!!!
.I’m just messing with ya. Rather than allowing your tangential mind to wander let’s just focus/track on the OP challenge.
Are you in some weird way trying to defend Biden’s Border Debacle?
Oh wait a minute, I did ask for Biden voters to defend Biden’s Border Debacle but you claim you didn’t vote Trump or Biden. That’s ok, you can still participate.
Are you defending Biden’s Border Debacle? And if you’re not why are you so invested in this thread?
You don’t fool me at all, I’ve looked at your post history and it’s obvious your case of TDS has been left untreated.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:35 pm to roadGator
Well I voted Biden but my home state (Texas) went Trump. And everyone I've talked to here, who's actually aware of what's happening at the border, and also in the interior as a result of the migrant surge, is absolutely appalled. This is both Republicans AND Democrats.
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