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Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:17 am to Jjdoc
I believe it is underpaid also, but until you get education out of liberal hands and privatized, they will always make shite.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:25 am to Ollieoxenfree99
The real kick is how they retire with pensions and demand raises to their pension salaries as retirees!
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 3:32 am to the808bass
quote:are you sure about this?
They can then retire with a larger take home pay than they make while employed.
in Alabama, they retire with 80% of their pay, but wind up taking home less than that because their rates to keep insurance go up substantially
my guess is that all states raise the rates that retired teachers pay for their insurance plans
Posted on 6/20/19 at 4:31 am to Jjdoc
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am a conservative who believes the job of teaching is under paid
Teachers in private schools make less than teachers in public schools. Private schools have better test scores.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 4:41 am to deeprig9
quote:School choice.
but are you really good at solutions?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 4:49 am to Jjdoc
In certain states, especially the NE teachers are well paid... Likely overpaid.
In PA, teachers are well paid with pensions that are bankrupting communities. In SC, teachers are probably underpaid.
As a job you are completely insulated against recessions and are not at risk of termination for poor performance. Seems fair to be paid less than other industries when you weigh those two actions.
In PA, teachers are well paid with pensions that are bankrupting communities. In SC, teachers are probably underpaid.
As a job you are completely insulated against recessions and are not at risk of termination for poor performance. Seems fair to be paid less than other industries when you weigh those two actions.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:56 am to Jjdoc
My wife made an annualized salary of $75,000 as a first year elementary school teacher. They are absolutely overpaid by a lot.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:58 am to dcbl
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are you sure about this?
Yes. Teachers in Missouri buy insurance at the rate of the school from which they retire. They’re still part of the pool.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:59 am to Jjdoc
Teachers are not well paid. They do , however, get a shitload of vaca, and need to work more of the year and get a raise.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:01 am to Jjdoc
As the teaching professionals n stands now, there is no way they deserve more pay other than cost of living adjustments to keep up with inflation.
They need to perform better to earn better pay, which their unions won’t permit.
They need to perform better to earn better pay, which their unions won’t permit.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:28 am to Jjdoc
Entry level teachers get paid a decent salary. Then school system employees get salary increases for being there, and that’s the problem. When someone sees that busting their arse gets the same reward as doing the bare minimum, you get an entire workforce doing the bare minimum.
How do you do pay if not by seniority? You can have the best teacher in the world, if the student doesn’t want to learn there is nothing that teacher can do. Do you fault teachers for poor students?
How do you do pay if not by seniority? You can have the best teacher in the world, if the student doesn’t want to learn there is nothing that teacher can do. Do you fault teachers for poor students?
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 6:29 am
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:32 am to cssamerican
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How do you do pay if not by seniority?
Like every other job?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:35 am to the808bass
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Like every other job?
Duh...what I should have said is, how does the administration determine if a teacher is doing a good job.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:41 am to Jjdoc
public schools should not exist
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:41 am to Jjdoc
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I am a conservative who believes the job of teaching is under paid
The problem is not how teachers are paid. The problem is how much they complain about it on social media.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:42 am to Jjdoc
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In business, the better the salary, generally the the better people come in for employment.
I have always advocated that teachers and policemen should be our highest paid public servants.
BUT - there need to be regulations that prevent political advocacy on the job.
THe education establishment should be empowered to levy fines on the parents of unruly students - and the students themselves should be removed from the educational system and sent to a rehabilitation facility - where the either shape up or graduate directly to prison.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:42 am to the808bass
For example, if I opened a car dealership in a poverty stricken area I could bring in the best salesmen in the country and I’ll still go out of business because they won’t be able to sell cars. Every intelligent person would blame the location for the failure, not the salesmen.
The difference is the school system doesn’t go out of business, and for some reason everyone blames the teachers or the administration for poor performance in an area that guarantees poor performance.
How do you determine as the public if the problem is the school system or the population?
The difference is the school system doesn’t go out of business, and for some reason everyone blames the teachers or the administration for poor performance in an area that guarantees poor performance.
How do you determine as the public if the problem is the school system or the population?
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 6:47 am
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:45 am to cssamerican
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How do you determine as the public if the problem is the school system or the population?
If you can’t get any kids to learn, quit.
25% of a class performing at grade level isn’t solely the “population’s” fault.
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