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I am a conservative who believes the job of teaching is under paid

Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:48 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53473 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:48 pm
In business, the better the salary, generally the the better people come in for employment.


However we have issues.


- socialist teachings
- lack of results
- lack of accountability
- and government ran and that equals waste and lack of production
Posted by The Funnie Five
Bluffington
Member since Feb 2019
3404 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:49 pm to
Schools were never intended to be a teacher only thing. Schools were also intended to have parents play just as big of a role as the teachers. When parents give no fricks, the kids won't either. That's the problem with inner city, government run schools
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64059 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:50 pm to
You are really good at complaining, but are you really good at solutions? You know, problem solving skills?
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20280 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:51 pm to
Schools should be year round with longer breaks
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64059 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:52 pm to
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When parents give no fricks, the kids won't either.


How does this get solved, instead of just complaining and complaining and complaining about it?
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27381 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:52 pm to
Y’all just got fricking raises all over the country. STFU unless your students are blowing it out on ACT & SAT scores. Teaching should be merit based.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11461 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:54 pm to
When a teaching degree becomes a fall back for people who can't get any other type of degree, we have a problem.

I have an acquaintance, that is business-minded. She is very skilled at marketing and would be a good salesperson. When she went into education, instead of marketing or business, I asked, WHY?! She said she couldn't do the math.


She teaches kids math now.....
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:56 pm to
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I am a conservative who believes the job of teaching is under paid


Teaching what??
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7637 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:57 pm to
teachers make more than I do and work 3 months less. I single dad and pay my mortgage just fine. cry me a river.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22436 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:57 pm to
That’s the fault of teachers. They demand to be paid based on education and years of service, not performance. Teachers trade pay for job security.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67116 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:57 pm to
The problem isn’t that teachers in general are underpaid, it’s that there isn’t enough differentiation in pay between teachers. Crappy 2nd grade teachers in easy subjects are paid the same as calc teachers. Hence why there’s a shortage of calc teachers and a glut of elementary teachers.

Teachers unions and politics prevent the free market from setting the right wage for teachers.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 9:59 pm
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11461 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:58 pm to
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That’s the fault of teachers. They demand to be paid based on education and years of service, not performance. Teachers trade pay for job security.


AMEN!

Go back to school during your 3 month Summer off, take more classes, get that Masters, get a big pay increase. Merit be damned!
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57296 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:00 pm to
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- socialist teachings
- lack of results
- lack of accountability
- and government ran and that equals waste and lack of production
All of this... and you want to give them a raise?
Posted by weev
Member since Jun 2019
69 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:00 pm to
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How does this get solved, instead of just complaining and complaining and complaining about it?


Segregation
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260878 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:01 pm to
In somestates, teaching is a 90k job. That ain't underpaid.,
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57296 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

The problem isn’t that teachers in general are underpaid, it’s that there isn’t enough differentiation in pay between teachers.
This.

quote:

Teachers unions and politics prevent the free market from setting the right wage for teachers.
Yep. Schools are one of the few thing the government literally mandates children attend. It’s that bad.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21917 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:04 pm to
Then you are a fool

A teaching degree is one of, if not the easiest degrees one can obtain in college.

Teachers make a very competitive wage and have an awesome benefits package that few careers can match.

Think on this for a second.
What new information is required to teach K-12 in any discipline.
English hasn't changed in 400+ years
Math all the way through Calculus hasn't changed in 400 years.
Science that would be taught in K-12 hasn't changed in 80 years.
History taught in K-12 hasn't changed in 50+ years.

All of those subjects are taught at basic levels.


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:06 pm to
Teachers in Missouri aren’t generally underpaid.

A teacher in the Rockwood school district (suburban St. Louis) with a Master’s degree will be making almost $80k at 20 years. They can then retire with a larger take home pay than they make while employed.

Everyone cries about lack of accountability and then cries about teaching to the test.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22436 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:06 pm to
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AMEN! Go back to school during your 3 month Summer off, take more classes, get that Masters, get a big pay increase. Merit be damned!


This past year my son, a HS Freshman, had the worst type of teacher for “Advanced” Biology. He didn’t learn shite. She went months without putting in grades. She lost work he and others turned in...

She had a PhD and 20 years of service. She was also black and “loved”. I figured out why at end of year..she gave them tons of easy shite to do and boosted their grades with it. He deserved a C but got a high B.

But it’s all a game. If I’d rocked the boat to hard, I’m fully convinced this bitch would’ve tanked his grade. He has to take AP Bio in a couple of years anyway so I hope he gets a better teacher and foundation in the subject.

Public schools suck.

Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17190 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:07 pm to
Supply and Demand.

Greater Supply drives down wages.

If getting into the field were tougher, the curriculum or other qualifications for becoming a teacher were tougher, there would be less Supply and wages would increase.
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