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HOW are untold millions continuing to flow towards Grand Isle ??

Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:07 am
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
11525 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:07 am
Just since Ida, it looks like well over 150 MILLION parish,state and federal $ have been spent on a recreational fishing village of LESS than 1500 people ! Does mayor David C. have ALL the compromising pictures of EVERY local,state and federal official, not to mention those of Entergy ? Can anyone name another LA community that receives such generous attention after EVERY storm ??
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:10 am to
Grand Isle benefits from two things IMO, romanticism and the lobbying to “save our coast”.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109197 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:11 am to
Should we rename it 150 Million Isle?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18016 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:12 am to
All the politicians need to keep Grand Isle around so they'll have a place to go dump their dead hookers.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24848 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:12 am to
Seems like after the last wipeout it would have been purchased by the government and used for wildlife.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11817 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:17 am to
I am glad the coast is getting the attention and money it finally deserves. It needs more and the USACE is largely to blame.

Hopefully, we get some attention on the Dead Zone and all the pollution in the MS River.
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6436 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:25 am to
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All the politicians need to keep Grand Isle around so they'll have a place to go dump their dead hookers.

Ed O needs a fish camp locale too
Posted by Original Bayou Boy
Flat Lake, LA
Member since Sep 2003
11618 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:30 am to
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Can anyone name another LA community that receives such generous attention after EVERY storm ??


I can name one....New Orleans.

The New Orleans Convention Center received $220 MILLION in FEMA PA funds due to Covid. How can that be?

Quit whining about saving the Louisiana coast. Every inch of the three miles out pays oil royalties. Want to bitch? Ask why Louisiana only gets 3 miles out when others get 10 miles out in royalties.

You are asking the wrong questions.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11817 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:37 am to
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Every inch of the three miles out pays oil royalties. Want to bitch? Ask why Louisiana only gets 3 miles out when others get 10 miles out in royalties.


Because former politicians like Huey P Long and Edwin Edwards were too busy fleecing the state instead of building it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:40 am to
To be fair, with the combination of O&G and recreation taxes Grand Ilse probably pulls a lot of its own weight.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:44 am to
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Hopefully, we get some attention on the Dead Zone and all the pollution in the MS River.


Yeah, to solve this the COE and EPA needs to some how regulate fertilizer runoff from the upstream Mississippi River watershed which is MASSIVE. Or maybe upstream farmers can regulate themselves and place oxidation ponds on the downstream sides of their property to mitigate downstream eutrophication. Forget the climate change bull shite. This is a real environmental issue that can be solved with engineering solutions.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10918 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:49 am to
in the immediate aftermath of Ida, I landed a gig doing damage surveying on the Island.

I was a 3rd party contractor for a 3rd party contractor that had been hired by Jefferson Parish.
Meaning there were 2 more sets of pockets being lined before I got paid.
And I was grossly overpaid for just walking around taking pictures.

and there is no way the 2 companies above me weren't making a profit off of me.
I can only imagine what the parish was being charged by the original contractor for that work.

I took a moment to just look around at everyone else on the island.
construction crews with forklifts, excavators, skid steers, etc. clearing out roads to make them passable
utility companies putting up (rather than repairing) all new power lines across the entire island
water companies trying to get the water mains back up and running etc.
etc.

so knowing what I was making per day to wit for a phone call to go take pictures of a property when given the address, I couldn't even begin to fathom how much each day was costing the State/Parish with everything else going on.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:54 am to
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and there is no way the 2 companies above me weren't making a profit off of me.
I can only imagine what the parish was being charged by the original contractor for that work.


"Consulting" firms that are contracted with government normally charge governments 3 to 3.5 times your salary for your services. Consulting firms that contract with private corporations normally charge 1.2 to 2.5 times your salary.
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 9:54 am
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16555 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:57 am to
I like GI very much but was shocked to see a multimillion dollar house for sale there.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10918 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 10:07 am to
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"Consulting" firms that are contracted with government normally charge governments 3 to 3.5 times your salary for your services. Consulting firms that contract with private corporations normally charge 1.2 to 2.5 times your salary.



so just as I thought, absolutely RIDICULOUS overspending and greasing of pockets.

I seriously sat in my truck and waited for someone from Town Hall to call and give me an address.
Then go to said address and upload 5-7 pictures of the outside of the property to a website.


That's all I freaking did for just shy of a month.
and I wasn't the only one that contract.

Rough math if your suggestions are correct, we were costing them somewhere in the neighborhood of $65,000 per day.


Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
6998 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 10:11 am to
quote:

I like GI very much but was shocked to see a multimillion dollar house for sale there.



There are plenty for sale in that range, many of the newer ones, especially on the east end, cost that much to build.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25422 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 10:11 am to


Anytime I think about Grand Isle, I think about how it's in Jefferson Parish and what kind of backroom bullshite went down in the early 1800's to get it in there.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Rough math if your suggestions are correct




They are spot on. The lowest I've been charged is 1.2 times hourly rate (plus expenses and per diem) for inspectors. The highest I have charged is 3.5 for engineering services to the city of NOLA. JP is usually 3.1. A lot of "overhead" to deal with when dealing with local governments. Working with big O&G is about 2.0.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59198 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 10:21 am to
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Grand Isle benefits from two things IMO, romanticism and the lobbying to “save our coast”.



Four things. Those two plus fishing and O&G (I would say even especially O&G). Without oil and gas coming out of the area it likely would have been written off as a loss due to subsidence long ago. If memory serves, that post-Katrina elevated roadway between Golden Meadow and GI was done with national security funds as the area produces so much energy that it's considered vital to national security.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 10:24 am to
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Four things. Those two plus fishing and O&G (I would say even especially O&G). Without oil and gas coming out of the area it likely would have been written off as a loss due to subsidence long ago. If memory serves, that post-Katrina elevated roadway between Golden Meadow and GI was done with national security funds as the area produces so much energy that it's considered vital to national security.



Good points.
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