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re: High heat in Texas prisons unconstitutional
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:10 pm to hawkeye007
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:10 pm to hawkeye007
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82% reoffend
That may be a success.
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:20 pm to Jbird
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Have you thought of filing a lawsuit against the school district?
Hmmmm . . .
I do feel like those conditions may have taken years off of my life.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:29 pm to Jbird
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“This case concerns the plainly unconstitutional treatment of some of the most vulnerable, marginalized members of our society,”
The people who prey on the vulnerable of society are now, in turn, the most vulnerable?
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:31 pm to Jbird
Well shite! I have to work in the damn heat providing taxes to house the convicts!
If i can do it while working, they can do it sitting on their asses.
If i can do it while working, they can do it sitting on their asses.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:37 pm to lake chuck fan
If you have enough money on the books, you can buy an electric fan in the commissary. And they don't charge you for the electricity.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:39 pm to Jbird
If all of the people that work in that prison can deal with it, why can't the prisoners deal with it?
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:45 pm to Jbird
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some of the most vulnerable, marginalized members of our society
Now do their victims.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:47 pm to Jbird
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High heat in Texas prisons unconstitutional
Next on The Babylon Bee: Federal Judge Rules Flames of Hellfire Unconstitutional...
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:52 pm to Jbird
Homo sapiens have been around for 300,000 years. Of those we've had air conditioning perhaps 70 years, widespread for 40-50 years, less in jails. I have lived in houses and owned cars without air, although both were older. Millions of human prisoners have endured a lack of air conditioning.
Murderers, drug dealers, and rapists are not subject to hardships by sweating it out. We will make sure they have water.
Murderers, drug dealers, and rapists are not subject to hardships by sweating it out. We will make sure they have water.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:57 pm to Jbird
Because you don't need AC to comply with the order, judges have made similar orders against Louisiana state penn and afaik they don't have AC but they complied
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:58 pm to FATBOY TIGER
eight amendment dude its part of the bill of rights.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:59 pm to dakarx
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they have been removed from our society for reasons........
You think the people in prison for possessing a gun that was unconstituionally made illegal were removed for reasons? I'm assuming you're a liberal?
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:00 pm to Jbird
The American prison system as a whole needs to be reformed. End private prisons. I won’t say all must have AC but ventilation and under 100 degrees is very important. Education, jobs, opportunity to transition into society helps some become model citizens. A prison sentence is to “pay” for the crimes committed but if the offender will get out, helping them so they won’t feel the need to reoffend should matter to everyone. Got guys my job… both did time and had opportunities to get their GED and introduced to the trades. Both are the best helpers we got.
Sending people to prison should not make people rich ie phone, commissary , transitional living ect. Just my views.
Sending people to prison should not make people rich ie phone, commissary , transitional living ect. Just my views.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:04 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
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. I won’t say all must have AC but ventilation and under 100 degrees is very important.
ventilation sure, under 100 degrees nah, make sure they're well hydrated and make sure the humidity indoors doesn't get too high. Louisiana state penn (angola) had a similar order to this back ~2009 I worked there right out of the military and had to deal with the order. All we had to do to comply was mark in the logbook that water was working and the ice bucket had ice I think it was every hour. You don't need more than that
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:16 pm to Jbird
The last I heard is that code only requires housing to have heat. There is not a requirement for AC.
During the heat of the summer there is always a media focus on the elderly living without AC and the request for fans and portable AC to help these people survive the heat.
If there is no code requirement for AC, then why should prisons be an exception? Just blow some fans to keep the air circulating.
During the heat of the summer there is always a media focus on the elderly living without AC and the request for fans and portable AC to help these people survive the heat.
If there is no code requirement for AC, then why should prisons be an exception? Just blow some fans to keep the air circulating.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:21 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
This wasn't inmates being uncomfortable it was so hot they cooked eggs on concrete
"Simmons testified she once watched a kitchen worker bring an egg back to her cell and cook it on the concrete floor. In 2020, a hallway thermometer in one unit reached 136 degrees when Simmons and two other inmates peeled off the tape that was meant to hide the reading, she said."
"Simmons testified she once watched a kitchen worker bring an egg back to her cell and cook it on the concrete floor. In 2020, a hallway thermometer in one unit reached 136 degrees when Simmons and two other inmates peeled off the tape that was meant to hide the reading, she said."
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:26 pm to Dolphinepride
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it was so hot they cooked eggs on concrete
I'm going to let you in on a secret, inmates lie. No one has cooked an egg on the floor of a cell, that's the coldest place in the cell. To get the floor hot enough to fry an egg would mean the air in the cell is going to be hot enough they'd be dying in their cells. Have you seen any reports that texas prisons are empty because all of the inmates are dead?
The trope of frying eggs on a sidewalk is because sidewalks are out in the direct sunlight which changes things.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:38 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
I'm going to take a wild guess that this board would lose its shite if a judge upheld a ban on all guns that weren't around when the 2nd Amendment was enacted.
In the same way that "arms" in the 2nd Amendment can now encompass things that weren't around in 1791, "cruel and unusual punishment" in the 8th Amendment can now encompass things that weren't around in 1791 (such as having access to AC in the hell that is a Texas summer).
In the same way that "arms" in the 2nd Amendment can now encompass things that weren't around in 1791, "cruel and unusual punishment" in the 8th Amendment can now encompass things that weren't around in 1791 (such as having access to AC in the hell that is a Texas summer).
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:42 pm to Jbird
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particularly as summers continue to get warmer due to climate change.
From the article.....
Sweating your arse off in jail would be a fantastic crime-deterrence I would think.
This world has become entirely arse-backwards.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:43 pm to Jbird
Give them ice water.
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