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Hayride questions Louisiana Wuhan Virus numbers

Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:43 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:43 pm
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If you’ll remember, this practice of essentially inflating the number of deaths attributed to the virus isn’t just a Louisiana thing. In Italy, the virus hotspot to which Edwards has continuously compared the Bayou State’s outbreak, it’s been revealed that only some 12 percent of fatalities reported as coronavirus deaths can be said to primarily have come from the virus – in the other 88 percent, some other co-morbidity is more likely what killed the patient.

Now we know the Louisiana Department of Health is doing the same thing...

We’re told that legislators who have asked the Governor’s office and LDH have not been able to get a straight answer on a key question – namely, what constitutes a “positive case” of the virus in the LDH’s tally?

There is word that for at least a sizable stretch of the state’s current testing regime, anyone who is very symptomatic of the Wuhan virus and is tested has been counted as a positive case, though that practice might not be the case any longer. If true, that would explain why, until a few days ago, Louisiana was running an astonishingly high ratio of 22 percent positive in its test reporting, more than double the 10 percent ratio nationwide. That number has since settled just under 13 percent, and more recent test results show the state dropping under 10 percent in positive cases.

Are negative tests being dropped out of the positive numbers and being replaced with positives generated by increased testing in order to keep Louisiana’s numbers growing?...

Currently, Louisiana sits at a 3.6 percent death rate from the virus. That’s an astonishingly high number; nationally, the death rate is only 1.5 percent. Louisiana’s neighbors are posting numbers which look nothing like ours; while Louisiana has 83 deaths out of 2,305 reported cases, in Texas, with five times the population, there are 23 deaths out of 1,662 cases, or a 1.4 percent death rate. In Mississippi, which studies have shown is the only state with a more unhealthy population than Louisiana’s, there are just six deaths out of 485 cases (1.2 percent). Florida, where the population is known to skew toward the elderly (and with five times our people), has 29 deaths in 2,484 cases (1.17 percent).

You can bend yourself into knots trying to explain why our numbers are so different than theirs. The easiest explanation is that Louisiana is inflating its death rate by counting people like Jaquan Anderson as coronavirus fatalities.


Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:44 pm to
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which Edwards has continuously compared the Bayou State’s outbreak, it’s been revealed that only some 12 percent of fatalities reported as coronavirus deaths can be said to primarily have come from the virus – in the other 88 percent, some other co-morbidity is more likely what killed the patient.


Andddddd he’s retarded.
Posted by SevenLinesofPine
Mississippi
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:45 pm to
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Are negative tests being dropped out of the positive numbers and being replaced with positives generated by increased testing in order to keep Louisiana’s numbers growing?...


It's clear as day. Y'all are throwing away negative results or just not testing anyone who either already died or is about to.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:46 pm to
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Let’s keep in mind that Edwards has a pre-existing condition of his own here – namely, that he’s established an unmistakable track record of flat-out lying to suit his agenda, and specifically, that his lies are of the fearmongering species. Edwards was going to have to cancel college football, after all, if he didn’t get a major tax increase. If his budget was to be cut by the legislature he would have to evict seniors from nursing homes. Last year, his camp accused Ralph Abraham of running an opioid pill mill, then he accused Eddie Rispone of aiming to end food stamps, school lunches, homestead exemptions, supplemental pay for police and a few other lies designed to frighten voters into re-electing him. So inflating virus numbers as a defense for his shutting down the state’s economy and demanding it stay in crisis mode would hardly be out of character for this governor.

Whether that’s what’s really going on here at this point or not, what we’re hearing is there is a definitive lack of transparency coming out of the state’s coronavirus response. Consequently, we’re passing along a warning not to accept those numbers at face value.
Posted by TulaneLSU
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:55 pm to
Almost every article from that website I have ever read was authored by an idiot.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
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24445 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:58 pm to
why, oh why, must LA have such a dogshit gaggle of conservative pundits?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:59 pm to
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Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:00 pm to
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Andddddd he’s retarded.

To be fair, there have been 2 deaths in the last day or two that were attributed to CV19, but were actually determined to be from another cause. It turned out that they just so happened to test positive for it.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:04 pm to
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why, oh why, must LA have such a dogshit gaggle of conservative pundits?

The Advocate alluded to the same "counting" issue this morning.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
29288 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:06 pm to
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why, oh why, must LA have such a dogshit gaggle of conservative pundits?


They try to offset the dogshit gaggle of liberal legislators....they do a horrible job.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:12 pm to
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The Advocate alluded to the same "counting" issue this morning.



And this bloated tool McKay goes from that to this:

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Are negative tests being dropped out of the positive numbers and being replaced with positives generated by increased testing in order to keep Louisiana’s numbers growing?

Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:13 pm to
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They try to offset the dogshit gaggle of liberal legislators....they do a horrible job.

Oh. It's the fault of the libs. Naturally.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37093 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:13 pm to
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To be fair, there have been 2 deaths in the last day or two that were attributed to CV19, but were actually determined to be from another cause. It turned out that they just so happened to test positive for it


Death certificates usually have options to list multiple causes. We already know that the coronavirus is worse for people with pre-existing medical conditions. If you have a heart problem, and you get the Coronavirus, and you die, did you die from the Coronavirus or from the heart problem?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:15 pm to
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Death certificates usually have options to list multiple causes. We already know that the coronavirus is worse for people with pre-existing medical conditions. If you have a heart problem, and you get the Coronavirus, and you die, did you die from the Coronavirus or from the heart problem?

Surely death via cv has distinct properties, right?
Posted by Number 9 Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2020
681 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:15 pm to

The guy is embarrassing himself trying to be right.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37093 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:15 pm to
Every once in a while, the Hayride has a decent article, but most of the time, it's worth what you pay for it.

This isn't a damn contest... no one gets an award for most deaths. It's asinine to think that anyone is intentionally inflating the numbers. What imperative would anyone have to do that?

I mean, I know some of you are just convinced that this is nothing more an a chance for the dems to install communism or some such foolishness... but really?
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
2723 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:17 pm to
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why, oh why, must LA have such a dogshit gaggle of conservative pundits?

Don’t be fooled, Louisiana is really a one party state when it comes to state government.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:18 pm to
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It's asinine to think that anyone is intentionally inflating the numbers. What imperative would anyone have to do that?

Fatty's take:
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Let’s keep in mind that Edwards has a pre-existing condition of his own here – namely, that he’s established an unmistakable track record of flat-out lying to suit his agenda, and specifically, that his lies are of the fearmongering species.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14494 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:19 pm to
So its sort of a damned if do damned if you don't situation.

I saw some criticism of Germany for artificially lowering their COVID-19 deaths because they if there was another possible reason, they attributed the death to that even if the person was positive for COVID-19.

Honestly, I think in this instance LA is doing the right thing. If they test positive for the virus and die, presume it was because of the virus. You can adjust the numbers later.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34141 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:21 pm to
Are they implying that the numbers are fraudulent.

No fricking way! I don't believe them. Governor Honor Code would never do that.

On another note...it is ashamed LSU couldn't field a team to face off with Clemson due to budget cuts. LSU could have been champs!


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Let’s keep in mind that Edwards has a pre-existing condition of his own here – namely, that he’s established an unmistakable track record of flat-out lying to suit his agenda, and specifically, that his lies are of the fearmongering species.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 2:41 pm
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