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re: Has it ever been explained why mail in is skewed to Democrats?

Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:44 pm to
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22535 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:44 pm to
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1. Republicans dominated the early vote until just before 2018. 2. Donald Trump started bad mouthing early voting. 3. Trump followers stopped early voting. 4. In 2018 and thereafter, Democrats utilized early voting at a higher rate.


Link?
Posted by Ole Ag
Member since Oct 2018
2294 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:50 pm to
Because people in a cult follow their leaders wishes to the T. No matter how stupid? Just a guess.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:51 pm to
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Link?
A couple of days ago, I linked to an article with charts and tables addressing these points. You can run a search on my user name.

EDIT
Here is the article. Scroll down about 1/3 of the way for a chart.

Is easy to forget that so many people on this forum are so very young, and that they think that anything more than four years ago was ancient history.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 11:15 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:53 pm to
Ballot harvesting.

What should be explained is why Republicans aren’t doing it too. Yes, it’s harder because the base is more spread out but tough shite
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38186 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:41 pm to
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I think it’s silly to assume people listen that much to what their politicians tel them to do on the right

Also I must have my head in the sand because I hardly if at all hear them saying don’t vote by mail
You can think it's silly all you want, but in 2020 - in the middle of a pandemic that attacks the elderly - Trump repeatedly advised his supporters NOT to vote remote. So these old people that could have voted in droves, instead, just didn't leave the house.

How can we still be asking this question?
Posted by The1TrueTiger
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Member since Apr 2009
2439 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:45 pm to
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Notice: republicans are rarely ever accused of cheating.


But get caught cheating far more often
Posted by Rip N Lip
Zambodia
Member since Jul 2019
6864 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:47 pm to
I got an absentee ballot in a red state over the phone this year. That’s a problem.
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
6216 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:49 pm to
They tapped into the eligible votes that were too lazy and/or lacked interest in voting and never would go to the polling station to vote. The army of Dem operatives have flooded the streets and brought the voting booth to their doorstep.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20188 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:26 am to
5. Democrats figured out they could fabricate thousands of votes in certain areas to ensure they gain power.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34825 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 2:39 am to
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A couple of days ago, I linked to an article with charts and tables addressing these points. You can run a search on my user name.


Your link doesn’t support your claim. R have utilized mail in voting pretty consistently over last 12 years, rising slightly and then staying flat. It should have dropped precipitously if they were listening to Trump, it didn’t. At all. What did change however was a massive rise in mail in ballots by the blue team over last few elections. Hmmmm

Not surprisingly both you and the article want to deflect and suggest the change is due to Trump when obviously the data doesn’t support that conclusion.
Posted by jivy26
Member since Nov 2008
2839 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:29 am to
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Has it ever been explained why mail in is skewed to Democrats?


Because we tell our base not to trust it and Dem's encourage theirs to use it. It is the simplest way to get votes and we discourage it for whatever reason.
Posted by Pu2kph0
Member since Oct 2022
1697 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:41 am to
It’s called cheating.
Posted by 4QNDS
Cypress Texas
Member since Oct 2019
158 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 5:04 am to
Because it’s the dead vote
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16499 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 5:12 am to
Until a democrat loses.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6564 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 5:12 am to
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Republicans telling their constituents that vote by mail is bad


It is. Republicans will never win that fight. They don't have the machine built to go into the bad parts of metros with free money, booze, cell phones or whatever and collect signatures. It's an inherently corrupt process and should absolutely be outlawed, but we are an inherently corrupt country so it won't.
Posted by SlickRick55
Member since May 2016
2639 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 5:32 am to
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Thanks for proving my point on how fricking dumb you are by your failed gotcha attempt.

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Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2393 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 5:59 am to
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It's an inherently corrupt process and should absolutely be outlawed,


Its not "inherently corrupt". It can be done properly and securely. The State of Washington is 100% vote by mail, and they find their election results more secure and reliable than in person voting.

But. Washington took decades to develop and refine its mail in process, and did not become 100% mail in until a few years ago. They did have a few hiccups along the way.

Interesting, it was the Republicans in Washington who pushed the mail in initiatives. The GOP pushed to expand mail in votes in the 90s. Then, after losing a hotly contested gubernatorial race in 2005, the GOP pushed for universal mail in on the grounds that counting both mail in ballots and in person ballots left too much room for error.

The problem in 2020 was that States were trying to jump into massive mail in voting without experience. They just expanded their existing absentee ballot system. States need to implement it slowly, like Washington did, and work out the security issues.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15536 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 6:16 am to
Mail-In is bad because it's ripe for corruption, but the real problem is ballot harvesting. There is nothing NOT corrupt about that liberal strategy.



Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57643 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 6:45 am to
quote:

1. Republicans dominated the early vote until just before 2018.

2. Donald Trump started bad mouthing early voting.

3. Trump followers stopped early voting.

4. In 2018 and thereafter, Democrats utilized early voting at a higher rate.


Not "early" voting, but "mail-in" voting. Mail-in is a form of early voting but so too is showing up in person at an early voting location and casting your ballot.

As mentioned earlier, the key is ballot harvesting. Someone going around canvasing to gather ballots has far more opportunity to influence voters (whether by answering whom/what they should vote for or simply filling out the ballot themselves) than what's available when people show up in person to vote.

Anyone who doesn't see this is purposely trying to not see it.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29248 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:13 am to
The better question is this: why do Democrats fight tooth and nail to NOT allow the purging of voter rolls?

Purging, of course, means eliminating people who have died, lost their eligibility (convicted of felony usually), or moved away.

There are tens of thousands of ineligible voters on the rolls throughout the country.
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