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Great Society Reforms Showed True and Meaningful Progress - Look at the Numbers
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:03 am
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:03 am
LIVING WAGES
Black poverty stood at ~87% in 1940 and ~55% in 1959.
It fell to ~47% by 1960 and reached a record low of 17.1% in 2022.
Pre-1960s gains (1940–1960) were steep; post-Great Society progress continued but at a slower pace in some analyses.
Black-White income ratios improved over decades despite starting from extreme disadvantage (which is good for all).
EDUCATION
In 1940, only ~7% of Blacks had high school education (vs. 24% nationally).
Today, Black high school attainment is ~88% (near national average); adjusted cohort graduation rates ~81% (vs. 90% White, 94% Asian).
College attainment for Blacks ages 25+ rose to ~26% (vs. ~36%).
However I don’t pretend to speak for African American posters - I would like to hear your thoughts on how these reforms have improved your life.
Black poverty stood at ~87% in 1940 and ~55% in 1959.
It fell to ~47% by 1960 and reached a record low of 17.1% in 2022.
Pre-1960s gains (1940–1960) were steep; post-Great Society progress continued but at a slower pace in some analyses.
Black-White income ratios improved over decades despite starting from extreme disadvantage (which is good for all).
EDUCATION
In 1940, only ~7% of Blacks had high school education (vs. 24% nationally).
Today, Black high school attainment is ~88% (near national average); adjusted cohort graduation rates ~81% (vs. 90% White, 94% Asian).
College attainment for Blacks ages 25+ rose to ~26% (vs. ~36%).
However I don’t pretend to speak for African American posters - I would like to hear your thoughts on how these reforms have improved your life.
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:06 am to RFK
Yea, absolutely no reason for them to be so violent.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:09 am to RFK
Now do the stats for unwed mothers and "fathers" that don't stay around and raise their kids
Great Society killed the black family.
" I'll have those n*****s voting democrat for 200 years" - LBJ
Great Society killed the black family.
" I'll have those n*****s voting democrat for 200 years" - LBJ
This post was edited on 6/19/26 at 9:11 am
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:09 am to RFK
quote:
I would like to hear your thoughts on how these reforms have improved your life.
I'm guessing nobody will chime in with the "70% of children born out of wedlock" reform.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:09 am to RFK
Seems like the Great Society Reforms had zero effect. The bulk of improvement happened before, and given the trend would have kept moving down.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:10 am to RFK
9 am and you’re spending your time doing this?
How long have you been unemployed?
How long have you been unemployed?
This post was edited on 6/19/26 at 9:11 am
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:11 am to RFK
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Today, Black high school attainment is ~88% (near national average); adjusted cohort graduation rates ~81% (vs. 90% White, 94% Asian).
Having taught high school for 6 years, I can tell you this statistic is meaningless because attainment of a high school diploma is no longer a consistent measurement of the skills and abilities of a graduate.
Many schools have become diploma factories designed to produce statistics that make superintendents and principals look successful when, in fact, many students graduate with skill levels well below even a 9th grade education.
This post was edited on 6/19/26 at 9:12 am
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:11 am to RFK
Can you do Asians also?
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:12 am to RFK
quote:
EDUCATION
In 1940, only ~7% of Blacks had high school education (vs. 24% nationally).
Today, Black high school attainment is ~88% (near national average); adjusted cohort graduation rates ~81% (vs. 90% White, 94% Asian).
Great. But what is actually being taught? What is being learned? What is the value of the education? What percentage of this is simply social promotion?
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:14 am to bluestem75
quote:This, and the welfare became a lifestyle.
Having taught high school for 6 years, I can tell you this statistic is meaningless because attainment of a high school diploma is no longer a consistent measurement of the skills and abilities of a graduate.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:16 am to RFK
How are your slip and fall clients doing?
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:16 am to RFK
LBJ and the 60's War On Poverty and Great Society were like reparations and a poison pill to the black community. It fostered dependency and subverted the black two parent home creating a cultural cancer.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:19 am to RFK
Great Society did nothing for black economic progress. You can thank Reagan, Clinton and Trump for that.
As for education, their gains are suspect as the vast majority are from shite public schools in urban areas.
As for education, their gains are suspect as the vast majority are from shite public schools in urban areas.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:19 am to bluestem75
If true, that’s shameful…
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:19 am to RFK
I’m not questioning your numbers but is it really honest to compare education and poverty to 1940 levels where almost every human was undereducated and poor?
And is it really honest to give credit to the welfare state for this considering this era was the most technologically and economically progressive era in all of recorded human history?
And is it really honest to give credit to the welfare state for this considering this era was the most technologically and economically progressive era in all of recorded human history?
This post was edited on 6/19/26 at 9:23 am
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:25 am to RFK
quote:
In 1940, only ~7% of Blacks had high school education (vs. 24% nationally).
Today, Black high school attainment is ~88% (near national average); adjusted cohort graduation rates ~81% (vs. 90% White, 94% Asian).
On paper, that seems wonderful.
The big question is: are they better educated now than in 1965? We see report after report demonstrating that a large percentage of HS graduates (of all races) cannot read above a 3rd grade level, cannot do basic math, and are woefully ignorant of basic historical facts.
The curriculum has been dumbed down to make sure everyone passes, and even those who continually fail are passed along to the next grade so as not to draw the attention of federal regulators for fear of losing federal funding.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:26 am to RFK
quote:
Great Society Reforms
What the fck
quote:
Black poverty stood at ~87% in 1940 and ~55% in 1959.
It fell to ~47% by 1960
Thanks Eisenhower.
2 years after the 64 bill it was at 41.8%.
You seem to be taking a lot of credit for things done and in motion long before "Great society reforms" actuallyhad an impact.
quote:
Black-White income ratios improved over decades despite starting from extreme disadvantage (which is good for all).
How is that good for all?
What is a woman?
quote:
Today, Black high school attainment is ~88% (near national average); adjusted cohort graduation rates ~81% (vs. 90% White, 94% Asian).
You fail to realize that black culture and economics split in the 1970s.
Those from the lower echelon may not be able to read well upon graduation.
quote:
However I don’t pretend to speak for African American posters -
Uh you do, this is basically telling African Americans that you would sit in a chair in the corner while African Americans explain to your wife what a woman is.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:28 am to RFK
Welfare state broke their families. More kids, more tax refund. Same with white trash. Same with illegals
This post was edited on 6/19/26 at 9:32 am
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:28 am to RFK
quote:
Black poverty stood at ~87% in 1940 and ~55% in 1959.
So black poverty was rapidly disappearing BEFORE institution of The Great Society programs.
quote:
In 1940, only ~7% of Blacks had high school education (vs. 24% nationally).
Today, Black high school attainment is ~88% (near national average); adjusted cohort graduation rates ~81% (vs. 90% White, 94% Asian).
Why are you using 1940 numbers? In 1969, before the Great Society effect, it was 54%.
So in both education and poverty, blacks were improving dramatically BEFORE The Great Society.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:29 am to OscarTheGrouch
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Great Society killed the black family.
This trumps every other factor in the OP.
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