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Grammar police should check their privilege: grammar is now racist too!

Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:36 am
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10502 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:36 am
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Towson University recently hosted a virtual "Antiracist Pedagogy Symposium," according to Campus Reform, which "criticized university writing curriculum and programs for being racist and perpetuating whiteness."

In addition to educating attendees about first-year writing and graduate school writing, the forum also addressed "linguistic justice."

"As the country begins its long-awaited reckoning with institutional racism, colleges and universities have been engaging deeply in the ethical dilemma of our time: How do our institutional structures and practices contribute to the problem of silencing, marginalizing, minoritizing, and otherwise harming black and indigenous students of color?" the event page reads. "What do we need to change to create not just a passively inclusive atmosphere for student, but an actively anti-racist one?"

What else?

The virtual event, which took place on June 17, featured April Baker-Bell — an associate professor of language, literacy, and English education at Michigan State University — who stated that standard English usage and teaching perpetuates the idea that "black language" is inferior to standard grammar.

Baker-Bell noted that dangerous teacher attitudes include "assumptions that black students are somehow linguistically, morally, and intellectually inferior because they communicate in black language."

"The way black language is devalued in schools reflects how black lives are devalued in the world," Baker-Bell said, "[and] the anti-black linguistic racism that is used to diminish black language and black students in classrooms is not separate from the rampant and deliberate anti-black racism and violence inflicted upon black people in society."

Also present was Cristina Sánchez-Martín, English professor at Indiana University of Pennsylvania, who said that she is working hard to undo "whiteness" in her students' writing.

“The repeated references to 'correct grammar' and 'standard language' reinforce master narratives of English only as white and monolingualism and a deficit view of multilingualism," Sánchez-Martín insisted during the symposium.

Speakers also included Dr. Carmen Kynard, Lillian Radford chair in rhetoric and composition and professor of English at Texas Christian University; Dr. Khirsten Scott, an assistant professor of English in the composition program at the University of Pittsburgh and co-founder of Digital Black Life and Culture; and Reverend Dr. Zandra L. Jordan, director of the Hume Center for Writing and Speaking at Stanford University.






Posted by Original Bayou Boy
Flat Lake, LA
Member since Sep 2003
11619 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:40 am to
I've been waiting for this to happen. Rather than rise to an acceptable level, due to patronizing poor performing groups, the standards for all will be lowered.

The value of the two parent middle class family will only increase due to this.

The gap between performers and non-performers will grow.

Good news is that many highly skilled jobs don't require you to speak or write perfect English.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26688 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:42 am to
Remember all those stories about African American troublesome students beating the shite out of the African American hardworking students for studying/"acting white"


This is pretty much the same thing, only its adults.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:42 am to
quote:

The virtual event, which took place on June 17, featured April Baker-Bell — an associate professor of language, literacy, and English education at Michigan State University — who stated that standard English usage and teaching perpetuates the idea that "black language" is inferior to standard grammar.

Baker-Bell noted that dangerous teacher attitudes include "assumptions that black students are somehow linguistically, morally, and intellectually inferior because they communicate in black language."


Why, yes, not being able to speak or write in proper English does make you linguistically inferior when talking about how to speak and write in proper English. It's a fact.
Posted by CornDogCologne
Mental Defective
Member since Nov 2007
8916 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:44 am to
Everything is racist and I no longer care. I used to at least try to understand the other side and make the occasional concession. Now I don’t give a frick. I’m gonna be me. If that offends you, good.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77717 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:45 am to
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"linguistic justice."


They need to GTFOH with that nonsense.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108983 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:45 am to
The dumbing down of America has been going on for a long time.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138931 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:45 am to
Can't wait to see their writing assignments

"Dis story don be right to me. Dat carakter is da story be mean n not good to ppl he mess wit. I din like dis 1 n it need 2 b throwed out da class."
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 11:45 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138931 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:47 am to
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Why, yes, not being able to speak or write in proper English does make you linguistically inferior when talking about how to speak and write in proper English. It's a fact.

Honestly, I think that in the next 5-10 years we'll have people graduating from universities that either can't read at all or can't read beyond a 2nd grade level.
Posted by colbycovington
Ruston
Member since Jan 2020
2097 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:49 am to
This is what they want blacks to sound like

Ebonics

Starting at about 1:10

At this point it's obvious that the left thinks blacks are too stupid to get an ID or speak English.

It's obvious who the real racists are.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30264 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:58 am to
I can't wait til I'm enough to be sitting around the campfire talking Cloud Atlas pidgin style.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 12:03 pm to
The problem is that schools can accept this, but employers won't.

So, congrats on your degree. Now, have fun working in an Amazon warehouse.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13626 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 12:11 pm to
Racism is over in America. When people say we have work to do this is the kind of things we are talking about. Grammar.

Congratulations we are the generation that ended racism in America.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48427 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 12:12 pm to
They're trying to normalize ebonics. Ebonics is trash and anyone who speaks in ebonics is trash. Anyone who speaks ebonics should be shamed until they learn how to speak real English.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 12:13 pm
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

"As the country begins its long-awaited reckoning with institutional racism, colleges and universities have been engaging deeply in the ethical dilemma of our time: How do our institutional structures and practices contribute to the problem of silencing, marginalizing, minoritizing, and otherwise harming black and indigenous students of color?" the event page reads. "What do we need to change to create not just a passively inclusive atmosphere for student, but an actively anti-racist one?"


So...if grammar is racist, why wasn't this written in jive?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157947 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 12:57 pm to
These people are insane
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11757 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 12:59 pm to
Being intelligent is “whiteness”

Great
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 1:02 pm to
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I've been waiting for this to happen. Rather than rise to an acceptable level, due to patronizing poor performing groups, the standards for all will be lowered.


Once again, Mike Judge nailed it...

LINK
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:44 pm to
And this is why I've always hated the "he/she" garbage. We give an inch on proper English and we end up here.

Slippery slopes need to be better paid attention too.

quote:

black language


Isn't this ebonics?

quote:

Cristina Sánchez-Martín


I wonder what she would say about people taking out the "Spanish Whiteness" out of the Spanish language. Stupid count needs to be charged with racism.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19622 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:51 pm to
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minoritizing


WTF does this mean? How does one "minoritize" someone? You're either a minority or you're not. It's math.

Oh, wait, math is racist too. Nevermind.
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