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re: Gov. Landry signs new bill. Ten Commandments to go up in every classroom.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:46 pm to bayoubengals88
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:46 pm to bayoubengals88
Instead of knowingly violating the constitution and enriching his buddies suing the state, he and the Louisiana Congress could have done something positive like pass a law declaring Louisiana a sanctuary from AFT tyranny to allow homegrown suppressors… ya know… fighting for our actual rights.
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 8:09 am to bayoubengals88
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Ten Commandments to go up in every classroom.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 8:11 am to KiwiHead
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So this really isn't about the 10 Commandments. It's about owning the other side.
Welcome to MAGA in a nutshell
It was fun in 2016 when it was a counter culture thing, during the Meme War/election, but then Trump won and it was time to actually do stuff, which he couldn't do, and then all that was left was virtue signaling anti-Leftism and clever argument. Then boomers found the internet and conspiracy theories in 2019 and it went off the fricking rails.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 8:32 am to SlowFlowPro
The 1980 Supreme Court is not the same 2024 Supreme Court. The Lemon Test will prove this
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 8:34 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 8:40 am to bayoubengals88
So ask yourself honestly, will this attract business to Louisiana? Will this attract investment? Will this make us look like backwards, uneducated morons?
Now tally it up.
Now tally it up.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 8:50 am to TBoy
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So ask yourself honestly, will this attract business to Louisiana? Will this attract investment? Will this make us look like backwards, uneducated morons?
No
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:27 am to KiwiHead
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It's about owning the other side.
This is the goal of politics now on both sides.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:31 am to bayoubengals88
These “so-called conservatives” are more upset about the 10 Commandments merely being posted in the classroom (not being forced to read the read them) then they are about homo porn books in elementary school library, and drag queen story hour.
I wonder why?
Romans 8:7 (NASB95): 7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,
I wonder why?
Romans 8:7 (NASB95): 7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:30 am to TBoy
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So ask yourself honestly, will this attract business to Louisiana?
No.
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Will this attract investment?
No.
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Will this make us look like backwards, uneducated morons?
Absolutely.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:34 am to bayoubengals88
Halleleujah for Gov. Landry
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:46 am to bayoubengals88
I mean he really needs to pick his battles. There are about 10000000 other issues that need his attention. I get it but I mean this wasn't all that important of a line in the sand. There are many many others way more urgent.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:48 am to CreoleTigerEsq
quote:Why? I really don't care either way because a list of what amounts to common sense isn't going to inspire anyone to righteousness nor will it harm anyone to read them.
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Will this make us look like backwards, uneducated morons?
Absolutely
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:10 pm to Jake88
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Why? I really don't care either way because a list of what amounts to common sense isn't going to inspire anyone to righteousness nor will it harm anyone to read them.
It's not the government's job to inspire anyone to righteousness. If you want to inspire someone to righteousness, you as an individual (being able to freely exercise your religion) should invite them to church or your Bible study.
Here's why it will make us look like uneducated morons. One of the reasons the founders placed the prohibition against the establishment of religion within the Constitution was because they sought independence from the monarchy in England (which is also the head of the Anglican Church). You can't completely discard that because you want government to serve as a recruitment tool for religion.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:28 pm to CreoleTigerEsq
quote:The Founders wrote the Constitution for the federal government, not the states. Why did states still have state religions after the founding? Who is recruiting? Again, how does this make anyone look like uneducated morons?
Here's why it will make us look like uneducated morons. One of the reasons the founders placed the prohibition against the establishment of religion within the Constitution was because they sought independence from the monarchy in England (which is also the head of the Anglican Church). You can't completely discard that because you want government to serve as a recruitment tool for religion.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:31 pm to Jake88
Those commandments are the foundation for all western governments
Better to have those in classrooms than trans flags and things that tear down societal norms
Better to have those in classrooms than trans flags and things that tear down societal norms
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:35 pm to bayoubengals88
This fine with me as conservative and practicing Catholic.
However, he's pulling the oldest trick in the book: Hoodwink you with something like this while he fails to implement tort reform. Then all the dumbasses think "He's one of us"! and forget about his inaction on fiscal issues
However, he's pulling the oldest trick in the book: Hoodwink you with something like this while he fails to implement tort reform. Then all the dumbasses think "He's one of us"! and forget about his inaction on fiscal issues
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:44 pm to Jake88
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The Founders wrote the Constitution for the federal government, not the states.
Someone missed the lesson on federalism, privileges and immunities, and the incorporation doctrine.
While each state has its own constitution, there are certain fundamental rights guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution that are either fully or partially incorporated within the states. The First Amendment is fully incorporated within the states.
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While several states within the colonies had (past tense) state religions for a brief period of time after the country was founded, this obvious conflict with the First Amendment is why no state within the United States has an official state religion (and hasn't for over 200 years).
New Hampshire kept its establishment until 1817. Connecticut kept its establishment until 1818. Massachusetts did not abandon its state support for Congregationalism until 1833. Between 1776 and 1796, however, to prevent undue clerical influence on state politics, seven states adopted constitutional provisions that excluded ministers from public office.
SCOTUS was established on March 4, 1789. In 1792, in Chisholm v. Georgia, SCOTUS held that states were under the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court and the federal government. Considering this, this would mean that the states were under the jurisdiction of the federal constitution.
So, those state religions, while they existed for a short period of time, didn't last long and many of them only lasted as long as they did because they were subject to the British Crown (meaning that they had an established religion because they received funding from the Crown for their existence since being a colony). It would have conflicted with not only the U.S. Constitution and the incorporation doctrine, but also federal case law subjecting the states to the jurisdiction of the federal government and the SCOTUS.
A for effort, though.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:02 pm to CreoleTigerEsq
I actually appreciate your answer. I was only posting what I posted because of yours here...
They didn't seem to really do much with the states and in fact attended services of the sponsored religions in their states.
As I said earlier, I ultimately don't care either way. And, I don't care much for this governor. WHat got my attention was your posting that it'll make LA look like uneducated morons. That's only if you take the view that a certain level of religiosity is the purview of morons. I happen to know some rather educated Catholic clergy who are vastly more educated than 99% of the country.
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One of the reasons the founders placed the prohibition against the establishment of religion within the Constitution was because they sought independence from the monarchy in England (which is also the head of the Anglican Church).
They didn't seem to really do much with the states and in fact attended services of the sponsored religions in their states.
quote:Wasn't the incorporation doctrine a thing only after the Civil War and the 13th and 14th amendment? Didn't the USSC still rule that the BOR only applied to the feds and not the states well into the 19th century?
Someone missed the lesson on federalism, privileges and immunities, and the incorporation doctrine
As I said earlier, I ultimately don't care either way. And, I don't care much for this governor. WHat got my attention was your posting that it'll make LA look like uneducated morons. That's only if you take the view that a certain level of religiosity is the purview of morons. I happen to know some rather educated Catholic clergy who are vastly more educated than 99% of the country.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:17 pm to KiwiHead
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So this really isn't about the 10 Commandments. It's about owning the other side.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:42 pm to TigerLawProf
You can’t have the 10 commandments but you can have the rainbow flag and gay parades. Hell, you can even have a fake holiday.
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