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Genuine question. How many folks around these parts believe Trump now has it in the bag?

Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:31 pm
I don't normally start threads on this board, but really I'd like to know your opinions and what has formed them. I'm genuinely interested. Also, if you believe he'll win. What's your confidence level on a scale of 1 to 10?

Before the debate, I gave Trump no meaningful chance at all but now, I've got a confidence level of around 4 that he can win. This is the wackiest election cycle in our lifetime and I'm hesitant now to make a solid prediction on the outcome.

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65558 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:33 pm to
The cheating network is still operational, especially the parts that involve Obama's transformed USPS.

If it was honest, yes, but it won't be honest.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65876 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:34 pm to
Depends on the level of cheating. In an honest election, Trump would win at least 49 states.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:36 pm to
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The cheating network is still operational, especially the parts that involve Obama's transformed USPS.

If it was honest, yes, but it won't be honest.


Ok. If you can, try and take cheating off the table for a moment. In the absence of cheating, what are your thoughts?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:36 pm to
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Depends on the level of cheating. In an honest election, Trump would win at least 49 states.


See above.
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7186 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:38 pm to
I’ll put it to you like this. Both in 2016 and 2020, there was not a single major poll that had Trump leading. Just about every one of those polls now have him up by 5+ nationally against the same guy that beat him 4 years ago. It’s his election to lose.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3701 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:38 pm to
I’ll give him a 5 right now. Things are looking good. I’m cautiously optimistic.

We are up against a lot of low information voters like my MiL. She leans conservative on policies like protecting the border, not starting wars, and pro freedom of speech, but she believes AR-15s are fully automatic and doesn’t like Trump because he’s a meanie.

We are also up against the Democrat cheating.
Posted by tiger789
on the bayou
Member since Dec 2008
2511 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:39 pm to
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I don't normally start threads on this board,












perhaps you should heed your own advice
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22771 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:39 pm to
Lol, it is absolutely not in the bag. The democrats can select a new candidate and be off to the races in 2 weeks. Name recognition doesn't matter. No one voted for Biden last time, they voted against Trump. Trump could commit some gaffe and implode with wine moms. 4 months is an eternity.

It only looks so hopeful at the moment because the media is in dissaray. They will regroup and coalesce around a new narrative.
This post was edited on 7/4/24 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Broadside Bob
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2012
1678 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:41 pm to
Don't see how Biden can win, so against him, I feel good. Against Kamala/Gavin/Whitmer/player to be named later WITH the MSM behind them, who knows.

Dims have worn out "unprecedented," but we are in truly unprecedented times. Don't get complacent.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32183 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:41 pm to
People I talk to feel like Michelle Obama will win if she enters the race

I think Trump can beat her, but she will be far more formidable than Biden

“in the bag” - not with the cheating machine, but I do think he can win
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14752 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:41 pm to
As we’ve seen over the past few months… nothing is ever in the bag with politics. Trump is the front runner and has the momentum at the moment.
Posted by Demonbengal
Ruston
Member since May 2015
5599 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:42 pm to
I’ll believe it when i see msnbc concede. One thing Trump and company need to be doing is pointing out exactly how they will cheat. Where it will happen also. I think part of the reason the debate moderators were fair was right wing brought up all the stuff Bash and Tapper had said about Trump in the past. If forced their hand.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:43 pm to
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I’ll put it to you like this. Both in 2016 and 2020, there was not a single major poll that had Trump leading. Just about every one of those polls now have him up by 5+ nationally against the same guy that beat him 4 years ago. It’s his election to lose.


Fair enough and you may be right. Tell me, do you think he's finally listening to people who are advising him (he seems to be) or do you think he'll frick it up in some way? He seems to be exercising some muzzle discipline right now.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
9923 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:43 pm to
Anyone who believes that would be a damned fool especially after all the events of these past few years.

I think most are hopeful and optimistic but not taking anything for granted.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
5236 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:47 pm to
It would be 1984 Reagan v Mondale without cheating. This feels like 2000 Bush v Gore right now.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:48 pm to
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Lol, it is absolutely not in the bag. The democrats can select a new candidate and be off to the races in 2 weeks. Name recognition doesn't matter. No one voted for Biden last time, they voted against Trump. Trump could commit some gaffe and implode with wine moms. 4 months is an eternity.

It only looks so hopeful at the moment because the media is in dissaray. They will regroup and coalesce around a new narrative.


I generally agree with all of those points. We won't forget the debate and it's ramifications but as soon as the MSM and social media has an opportunity to get off its heels and recalibrate around a new candidate, they will.

I don't think we've seen yet the full power of all forms of media and how that media will be weaponized.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Don't see how Biden can win, so against him, I feel good. Against Kamala/Gavin/Whitmer/player to be named later WITH the MSM behind them, who knows.

Dims have worn out "unprecedented," but we are in truly unprecedented times. Don't get complacent.


Likely a guaranteed win against Biden. The MSM and his own Party has so thoroughly shite all over him, that there's now no going back. But against someone else? Game on for sure.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63089 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:51 pm to
Nobody can say that because of the potential to steal the thing the Dems have and their willingness to risk everything to do it.

But, I can say he's way ahead right now very confidently.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7252 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:52 pm to
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How many folks around these parts believe Trump now has it in the bag?
I don't.

Trump will frick it up. Give him time.
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