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re: Genuine question. How many folks around these parts believe Trump now has it in the bag?

Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:53 pm to
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People I talk to feel like Michelle Obama will win if she enters the race

I think Trump can beat her, but she will be far more formidable than Biden

“in the bag” - not with the cheating machine, but I do think he can win


Fine. In the absence of the "cheating machine" though, what are your thoughts?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:55 pm to
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I’ll believe it when i see msnbc concede. One thing Trump and company need to be doing is pointing out exactly how they will cheat. Where it will happen also. I think part of the reason the debate moderators were fair was right wing brought up all the stuff Bash and Tapper had said about Trump in the past. If forced their hand.


You don't think the so called "independent" and moderate voter is exhausted with hearing about all that? Those voters matter.
This post was edited on 7/4/24 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2377 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:56 pm to
He has nothing in the bag and those that think he does are fooling themselves. What has changed since 2020 if you believe Biden cheated to win? Nothing, with the exception of maybe Florida and it was probably pretty solid for him regardless. This notion that he is going to win 5-10 points is sheer lunacy
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
26569 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 12:56 pm to
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. If you can, try and take cheating off the table for a moment.


Why?

Why would anyone want to ignore this?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80018 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:01 pm to
Trump is no lock. He's at about a 60% chamce right now to win.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:02 pm to
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quote:
How many folks around these parts believe Trump now has it in the bag?
I don't.

Trump will frick it up. Give him time.


Well he's finally listening to someone. He's done a good job keeping his mouth shut this week.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:04 pm to
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quote:
. If you can, try and take cheating off the table for a moment.


Why?

Why would anyone want to ignore this?



Because it's this board's "go to". Try to have a discussion for a change without it.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7252 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:07 pm to
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Well he's finally listening to someone. He's done a good job keeping his mouth shut this week.
I've noticed that. He'd be wise to keep it up. I doubt he can. He will erupt soon.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:07 pm to
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Fine. In the absence of the "cheating machine" though, what are your thoughts?



Trump is way ahead and it would be unprecedented for an opponent to turn that around at this late stage.

That's why the Democrats are going back and forth on removing Biden.

You mentioned you didn't realize Trump was ahead before the debate. He was significantly ahead. That's why the Dems were pushing for an early debate. They needed to turn the tide. It completely backfired as we know.

Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:09 pm to
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BuckI


Everyone is laughing at you.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:14 pm to
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Trump is way ahead and it would be unprecedented for an opponent to turn that around at this late stage.

That's why the Democrats are going back and forth on removing Biden.

You mentioned you didn't realize Trump was ahead before the debate. He was significantly ahead. That's why the Dems were pushing for an early debate. They needed to turn the tide. It completely backfired as we know.


No I didn't. I said I didn't have him winning before the debate. I know he was performing well in the polls prior to the debate. I just don't trust them.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65568 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:15 pm to
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In the absence of cheating, what are your thoughts?
Trump beats Joe or Kamala, who won't get the suburban white chick vote because they know she's a homewrecker who fricked her way into power.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:17 pm to
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Trump beats Joe or Kamala, who won't get the suburban white chick vote because they know she's a homewrecker who fricked her way into power.


Is this something you know and care about or do you believe the Suburban wine mom cares about it too?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:23 pm to
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quote:
Well he's finally listening to someone. He's done a good job keeping his mouth shut this week.

I've noticed that. He'd be wise to keep it up. I doubt he can. He will erupt soon.


Sorta like when Roger Rabbit hears shave and a haircut.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:33 pm to
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know he was performing well in the polls prior to the debate. I just don't trust them.


Trump has outperformed the polls in the past consistently. This time you think they are inaccurately skewed in his favor? Brilliant.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8886 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:34 pm to
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Lol, it is absolutely not in the bag.


Exactly. "Whatever it takes. By any means necessary."
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2327 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:34 pm to
Trump can't lose!

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:35 pm to
With what is at stake, I can't imagine ANY scenario whereby Trump is allowed to take office. Nothing has been done to disrupt the cheating apparatus. My confidence level is at 1.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:35 pm to
Before the debate, I had it at like a 3

After the debate, I’m at a 7

If Trump can avoid unforced errors like a Mike Flynn VP pick or some wild tangent at the next debate, it’s clearly his to lose.

Biden is a shell at this point and it’s only going to get worse.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 7/4/24 at 1:36 pm to
You see how biased the media is - they would fully rally around a deep fake audio of Trump "saying the n word" in "newly discovered" Apprentice records and have 75 left wing "audio experts" from Hollywood and Broadway "independent verify" it's authenticity
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