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Gas Stoves. Now Ceiling Fans?

Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41093 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:46 pm
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Ceiling fans are now the latest target in the Biden administration's green agenda, sparking pushback from Republicans and manufacturers.

The Department of Energy is proposing a rule that would require ceiling fans to be more energy efficient, arguing the move would save U.S. households on energy costs.


Posted by matty3387
Metairie
Member since May 2018
900 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:47 pm to
Tell him to come tell me that
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162211 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:49 pm to
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"This rule would require numerous small business fan manufacturers to redesign their products and may put between 10 and 30 percent of small business ceiling fan manufacturers out of business," the GOP members of the committee wrote in a letter to Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm on Thursday. "It appears that the Department of Energy (DOE) may not have properly considered small entities during this rulemaking process."

As if the left cares about small businesses

They love monopolies
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98862 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:49 pm to
This is an issue all southerners can unite on and could hand Georgia back to Trump.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:50 pm to
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green agenda,

Crock
Of
shite
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46010 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:50 pm to
I currently have the great room ceiling fan running on high 24/7
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:51 pm to
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This is an issue all southerners can unite on and could hand Georgia back to Trump


No shite, taking away ceiling fans in the south is fighting words.

Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67767 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:53 pm to

First they came for the leaded gasoline . . .
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:55 pm to
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Gas Stoves. Now Ceiling Fans?
The proposal does not ban ceiling fans, just require a new efficiency standard, i.e., use less electricity to run.

Is that bad?
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
49588 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:59 pm to
frick those assholes
Posted by LSUCap
Member since Apr 2023
1275 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:03 pm to
You’re missing the point! They shouldn’t have the right to tell us how to live, or what to spend our money on! ITS CONTROL
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:05 pm to
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The proposal does not ban ceiling fans, just require a new efficiency standard, i.e., use less electricity to run.

Is that bad?

They're angry that they'll save money on electricity, lol.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140076 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:07 pm to
Does it make the ceiling fan more expensive?

How much more efficient can a small electric motor get?

Posted by Torqued Pork
Malvern
Member since Sep 2020
3615 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:07 pm to
It's bad when the new efficiency standard kicks in the new fans will likely move less air than a newborn's fart.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:09 pm to
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You’re missing the point! They shouldn’t have the right to tell us how to live, or what to spend our money on! ITS CONTROL

Agreed. How dare they force companies to stop insulating every damn thing you owned with asbestos. Your money!!
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101347 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:10 pm to
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currently have the great room ceiling fan running on high 24/7


Pretty sure the electricity load needed to run such things is about as negligible as can be. For years they were pitched as a way to save electricity, because presumably they would allow you not to have to run an AC as low with them on.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35997 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:11 pm to
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Is that bad?


It may be if the extra expense is do great it takes 20 years to recoup your investment.

It’s the law of diminishing returns.

I think there’s more savings possible if you turn it off when you leave the room. There is no appreciable benefit in summer to run a fan when no one is in the room.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8529 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:14 pm to
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Is that bad?

Yes because this means most manufacturers are just going to limit the speed of their fans in order to meet these "green" requirements. And those who do find a way of making their fans more efficient will likely be selling fans that don't last as long at a premium (which ends up being more wasteful). We've seen this phenomenon in cars as the EPA keeps squeezing manufacturers for better MPG. Newer cars have more expensive parts and don't last near as long as older vehicles.

Mighty brave of Joe to go after average Americans but not his rich donors who fly private jets every day.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44016 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:22 pm to
“ … Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do …. “
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64169 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:25 pm to
It’s a fan. It rotates in a circle. How much more fricking efficient can it be
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