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re: Gas Stoves. Now Ceiling Fans?
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:02 pm to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:02 pm to Aubie Spr96
quote:Ever notice the burden lies with co summers to prove the regulations are bad, costly, and expensive, rather than the government having the burden showing their regulations have merit?
Additional gov't regulation is always bad for the consumer. It means higher prices. less quality, and few options.
“Why do you care, it’s just some regulation and you don’t buy lots for ceiling fans” is a regulatory version of why do you fear government searching your home if you have nothing to hide”.
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:12 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:
have the great room ceiling fan running on high 24/7
And I am supplementing them with individually directed floor fans as well.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:16 pm to Aubie Spr96
Y’all will fear monger and cry outrage over literally anything. You think they’re coming for your CEILING FAN?!
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:17 pm to SlimTigerSlap
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:20 pm to roadGator
quote:
How much more efficient can a small electric motor get?
Well obviously each new fan comes with a 2' square solar panel that mounts to your roof. You just run the wires up there to it. Easy and saves at least 1kWh a year.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:25 pm to LSURussian
quote:
Your answer to my question is very reminiscent of the time back when the Feds proposed new light bulb efficiency standards prohibiting incandescent light bulbs in favor of LED bulbs.
I love my LED bulbs. They last a very long time, but they also burn cool which prevents fixture heat damage.
That being said, some people's electric power is not clean and it kills LED bulbs very quickly. For them, incandescent is the only choice.
Government "one size fits all" is often a dumb mistake.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:26 pm to Aubie Spr96
Next up. Ceiling fans that we have to replace every 3 years
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:26 pm to LSURussian
quote:
Your answer to my question is very reminiscent of the time back when the Feds proposed new light bulb efficiency standards prohibiting incandescent light bulbs in favor of LED bulbs.
We were discussing the exact thing at work and came to the same conclusion, LED lights are much better and the cost isn’t higher than the old bulbs.
But why was the government involved?
LEDs should have won out in a free market because the price is right now and they are better in every way.
I think the government getting involved with toilets undercut their position on a lot if things. People don’t trust them when it comes to consumer products.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:27 pm to Aubie Spr96
A free market should determine what ceiling fan we choose to use. Make it more efficient and affordable and people will buy it.
Competition begets innovation.
Competition begets innovation.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:27 pm to LSURussian
I know you are smarter than this.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:30 pm to Jbird
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Other than prices will surge due to reduced manufacturers and idiotic reengineering costs
Brought to us by the same energy experts who think main battle tanks should be battery powered.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:35 pm to LSURussian
Hey Russian.
My eyes still aren’t adapting to the ceiling light requirements put in place 10 years ago. Light triggered headaches are a part of my life now. At least until I’m able to find enough old fixtures to replace all in our home.
My eyes still aren’t adapting to the ceiling light requirements put in place 10 years ago. Light triggered headaches are a part of my life now. At least until I’m able to find enough old fixtures to replace all in our home.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:40 pm to LSUGrrrl
Hey, Ms. Grrrl.
I'm not sure what you mean about getting light triggered headaches.
I'm not sure what you mean about getting light triggered headaches.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:51 pm to doubleb
quote:The government got involved in order to provide an incentive to bulb manufacturers to build new plants or install new equipment to make the new types of efficient bulbs.
We were discussing the exact thing at work and came to the same conclusion, LED lights are much better and the cost isn’t higher than the old bulbs.
But why was the government involved?
LEDs should have won out in a free market because the price is right now and they are better in every way.
Back when the legislation was passed and signed by W. Bush it put in a multi-year delay for implementation. (I think it was originally a 3 or 4 year time before the old bulbs were not allowed to be sold but the deadline got pushed back more than once.)
At the time of the legislation the new bulbs were double the price of the old tungsten bulbs. Only the most fanatical treehuggers would spring for a bulb that cost double.
So sales were low for the new bulbs and would remain low until companies started making the new bulbs in volume and competition started doing what it always does....drive prices down.
The legislation sped up the process of creating incentives for manufacturers to start producing the new LED bulbs in a high enough volume to drive prices down. And it worked.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:52 pm to Aubie Spr96
quote:
arguing the move would save U.S. households on energy costs.
So would turning off your A/C, unplugging your fridge, and not doing laundry. The FedGov always packages their bullshite as being for our own good. frick 'em.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:55 pm to CleverUserName
quote:Nah, it's true.
That’s 100 percent bullshite.
quote:No one would ever confuse your double wide for Buckingham Palace.
If you saw a receipt of how many LED bulbs I’ve bought for my house in 6 years you would think I live in Buckingham Palace.
quote:Why bring up your kids in this thread??
I have two dim ones in the bathroom now
Posted on 8/25/23 at 4:05 pm to Tantal
quote:
The FedGov always packages their bullshite as being for our own good. frick 'em.
An Aggy I can get behind, but not in the typical Aggy way.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:06 pm to BayouBoogaloo
quote:
Y’all will fear monger and cry outrage over literally anything. You think they’re coming for your CEILING FAN?!
Because they are coming for current ceiling fans. Hell, they have said as much. And once they do, what we will be left will be shite. That is the way our government works. It is amazing anyone could screw up ceiling fans. But they will. And after they do so, they will proudly boast “look what we did for you!”
It is almost like they hate us and want us miserable….
Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:09 pm to Aubie Spr96
Biden showered with his daughter until she was 15. His opinion on anything else is irrelevant.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:21 pm to captdalton
quote:If you believe "they" are coming to your house to take your "current ceiling fans" away from you, then please seek help.
Because they are coming for current ceiling fans.
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