re: Gas Stoves. Now Ceiling Fans?

First: fuel
SECOND: reduced flow toilets

Third: Exterior non-latex paint

Forth: too many to mention but treatments for real wood floors, and landscape timber that doesn't rot are in there.

All decisions made by people who have never worked but have received paychecks for nodding and agreeing with their bosses.

Let them all drive electric company/gov cars.

Then we'll turn our ceiling fans off and need to turn our A.C. down a lot and let them charge their cars off of cow farts.

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Is that bad?


Yes because this means most manufacturers are just going to limit the speed of their fans in order to meet these "green" requirements. And those who do find a way of making their fans more efficient will likely be selling fans that don't last as long at a premium (which ends up being more wasteful).

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Your answer to my question is very reminiscent of the time back when the Feds proposed new light bulb efficiency standards prohibiting incandescent light bulbs in favor of LED bulbs.

The usual tin foil hat wearers were apoplectic saying the new bulbs would come with chips recording our private conversations, would never last as long as the old glowing element bulbs, would cause house fires, would damage existing electrical wiring, wouldn't be bright enough to light a room....yada, yada, yada.

I switched all my home's light fixtures and lamps to LED bulbs 5 or 6 years ago and I really like them. I can't remember the last time I had to change a burnt-out bulb.

Even my outside flood lights are LED and they are brighter, and "whiter," than the old flood light bulbs. The LED bulbs create almost no heat, which is really nice on these 100+ degree summer days and my A/C is running almost non-stop during the day time as it is.

Sometimes I think people just hate change so much they'll gripe about anything...

No A/C, no fans, no way to cook, no transportation. Keep voting Democrat

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"This rule would require numerous small business fan manufacturers to redesign their products and may put between 10 and 30 percent of small business ceiling fan manufacturers out of business," the GOP members of the committee wrote in a letter to Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm on Thursday. "It appears that the Department of Energy (DOE) may not have properly considered small entities during this rulemaking process."

As if the left cares about small businesses

They love monopolies

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Much easier to nationalize a few large monopolies than many small business.

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The proposal does not ban ceiling fans, just require a new efficiency standard, i.e., use less electricity to run.

Is that bad?

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You're probably ignorant, even mildly retarded, when it comes to basic appliances and how they work. Average ceiling fan requires about 1.5 - 3 amps to run depending on diameter and if it has a light kit. They are already very low energy using devices, asding extra cost via government fiat for moving moderate volumes of air in a residential setting is not going to save anyone an appreciable amount of money. I have two 1970's vintage Hunter ceiling fans that use the same amount of energy that a modern Harbor Breeze cheapo uses, except the Hunters will keep working 40 years from now and thus save more energy over production and waste.

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Agreed. How dare they force companies to stop insulating every damn thing you owned with asbestos.

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so how does a less efficient fan effect your health...

Powerchoad says no biggie.

You will own nothing and be hot.

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I switched all my home's light fixtures and lamps to LED bulbs 5 or 6 years ago and I really like them. I can't remember the last time I had to change a burnt-out bulb.

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I change out burned LED's all the time. The LED COBs might be rated for tens of thousands of hours but the driver circuitry isn't.

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The LED bulbs create almost no heat,

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That's also bullshite. I have thermal images of LED bulbs well over 120F at the base where the driver circuits are housed, that's why large LED bulbs have heat sinks built into them.

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Sometimes I think people just hate change so much they'll gripe about anything...

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I think people, like you, buy into stuff because they are fundamentally uneducated and don't grasp much beyond what their simple minds can process. LED's use less total wattage but take vastly more energy to create, ship, and are more problematic as landfill waste. A conventional incandescent bulb requires only a fraction of the mass to create, and will eventually break down into insignificant materials and oxides. LED bulbs will be dug up mostly intact centuries from now but the dimbulbs of humanity are patting themselves on their backs because of how environmentally conscious they are for mandating/using them.

Get policy and lawyers out the way and see how cheap energy becomes