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re: Funny how the socialists devalue a CEO

Posted on 12/29/23 at 10:03 am to
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/29/23 at 10:03 am to
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Even CEOs of miserably failing companies get paid very, very, very well. I sometimes agree with Leftwats on this issue.



Oil and Gas comes to mind
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66849 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:14 am to
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Oil and Gas comes to mind


like who?
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4740 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:35 am to
The irony is they want the government to be the ceo. It's the same thing. Someone has to run it.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:37 am to
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They get pissed about the golden parachute that is given regardless of performance.

People hate head football coaches for the same reason.

And honestly I think they're being pretty reasonable
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6515 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:49 am to
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like who?



U.S. energy CEOs are awarding themselves millions in bonuses as their companies go bankrupt

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Whiting Petroleum, the sector’s first big casualty in the wake of the crash, paid five executives US$14.6 million as it filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in April. Extraction Oil & Gas, the second big name to go, handed 16 executives US$6.7 million this month — a week before it sought protection.


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Perhaps most egregious was Chesapeake Energy, which is expected to join the list of casualties imminently. Last month the company paid 21 executives US$25 million.

California Resources, also on the brink, tweaked its compensation structure in March so that its chief executive would get a severance package worth double his salary and bonus if he is sacked without cause. He earned US$10.5 million last year.


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Chief executives at large independent producers earned 138 per cent of their target bonus pay over the past three years — suggesting they outperformed their agreed goals — according to research by Evercore. Yet over that period total returns to shareholders fell 55 per cent.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 11:51 am
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66849 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:51 am to
never heard of most of those small to medium sized energy companies.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6515 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:51 am to
youve never heard of Chesapeake or Whiting?
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18451 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:56 am to
What are you even talking about? Lots of buzzwords, but no context.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
22184 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:56 am to
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Funny, you never hear them talk about millionaire athletes or artists who make untold fortunes playing games or doing lip synced karaoke

Socialists worship at the alter of celebrity.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260689 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:57 am to
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They get pissed that she or he makes a large salary and yet have no idea what that person does to assure the survival of the company


I cant wait for automation.

You'll see so many tears...
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12247 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:09 pm to
What could possibly go wrong when making these kinds of generalizations, with all critics of CEO pay labeled as "socialists"?
Since 1978, CEO pay has increased by 1460 % inflation, average worker pay by 18%, adjusted for inflation.
Posted by SUJagsfan
Member since Dec 2023
10 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:10 pm to
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A severe mental disorder just like liberalism. Both need to be wiped out completely because BOTH never work in any way, shape, or form. And both are completely useless and destructive if not put down!


So you're not a fan of socialism or liberalism but you seem to be a fan of totalitarianism and forced collective thought....interesting
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66849 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:26 pm to
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Since 1978, CEO pay has increased by 1460 % inflation, average worker pay by 18%, adjusted for inflation.


and?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47648 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:50 pm to
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Since 1978, CEO pay has increased by 1460 % inflation, average worker pay by 18%, adjusted for inflation.


We should all be CEOs
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14575 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:53 pm to
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Since 1978, CEO pay has increased by 1460 % inflation, average worker pay by 18%, adjusted for inflation


Good for them.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25670 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:59 pm to
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People hate head football coaches for the same reason.


That was the first quasi-analogy I thought of and the first example was paying Les Miles $2m to leave Kansas after he royally fricked up the program.

There are CEOs that are worth every penny of their exorbitant salaries but there are some that drive their companies off a cliff and still get huge golden parachutes on the way out the door of a company that is circling the drain.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
15190 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:39 pm to
Imagine sticking your neck out to defend a global elite. Woof
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37109 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:47 pm to
Here is the issue.

CEO does well, company does well, he gets paid, workers don’t get any benefit

CEO sucks, company crashes, he gets paid, workers get laid off.

If a CEO is good, pay him tons of bonuses but don’t forget the workers who execute the strategy.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37109 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:48 pm to
Why has the gap expanded between ceo and worker pay as a percentage?

CEO should make a lot more of course, but the disparity is getting greater.

Why is that?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260689 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:55 pm to
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Imagine sticking your neck out to defend a global elite. Woof


What kind of work do you do?

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