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re: Federal judge blocks Louisiana law that requires classrooms to display Ten Commandments

Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:58 am to
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:58 am to
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I find it interesting how the 1st amendment--which preserves the right to religious belief/expression--is used as an excuse to exclude religion from the public square.

The common thread of people complaining about the judge’s decision is they didn’t go to law school and have no understanding of constitutional law
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:01 am to
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is used as an excuse to exclude religion from the public square.

*by the government

Individuals can promote religion in the "public square".
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:02 am to
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Seperation of church and state


Except when it comes to places to vote huh?
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:03 am to
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We need a constitutional amendment declaring that Jesus Christ is the King over the nation.


Nutcase. And clearly not conservative. The Founding Fathers would beat you senseless.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
99722 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:08 am to
Landry secures the outcome he was hoping for in the first place. Now he can campaign for President on "They're taking God out of our schools!!!!! That's the problem in America. Vote for me and we'll get rid of communist Judges like this one!"
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:11 am to
How about a compromise. Let's have no law that requires posting the commandments and no law banning the posting. Some schools will have it and some schools won't. It's called freedom.
Posted by Melkor
Member since Sep 2022
182 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:35 am to
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if you you are going to include one religious display you have to include all of them
No, you don't. The governement is of the people, by the people, for the people. Quite literally a representation of the people.
Posted by PoBoy1
Member since Mar 2014
469 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:40 am to
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Landry knew what the outcome of this would be when he did it. The SpCrt precedent on this and similar issues is a mile long.


JL's goal all along was to get this issue before SCOTUS and reverse that precedent, given the favorable SCOTUS makeup and the likelihood of success.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:43 am to
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No, you don't


According to the courts you do. It was not an endorsement of this philosophy, simply a statement of the current precedent.

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The governement is of the people, by the people, for the people. Quite literally a representation of the people.


The people are christians and jews and muslims and hindus and agnostics and atheists and...
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
43902 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:51 am to
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Nutcase. And clearly not conservative. The Founding Fathers would beat you senseless.
The founding fathers were quite religious. They promoted days of public prayer, for instance.

There is a big difference between requiring a person to adhere to a particular religious belief or practice (or preventing them from their own) and allowing public expression of religion.

The modern idea that the government has to be completely secular was not the intent of the founding fathers.

And my personal opinion is that we shouldn't expect God's blessing on our nation if we reject Christ as King of kings and Lord of lords.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
43902 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:54 am to
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The common thread of people complaining about the judge’s decision is they didn’t go to law school and have no understanding of constitutional law
Where does the 1st amendment say that the government must be entirely secular? The founding fathers didn't act as if that were the case.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
54186 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 11:06 am to
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No. There is a special session addressing taxes right now.


Only after commandments and bathrooms have been legislated. You know, the important stuff.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25801 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 11:06 am to
as they should. stupid fricking law. waste of time and money.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
43902 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 11:31 am to
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It does not, however if you you are going to include one religious display you have to include all of them. (At least according to the Courts, I am not agreeing or disagreeing one way or the other).

The State cannot choose one endorse and exclude others.
This is what I disagree with. I hope one day the courts will overturn that.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 11:35 am to
They do display the religion of perversion flag.

They make perversion holidays over traditional holidays.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 11:37 am to
What Zach said.
Posted by mikesliveisacheater
Member since Nov 2009
1084 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 11:40 am to
Can we get a judge to block any more Tiger Stadium appearances from Temu Mike?
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
11639 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 11:41 am to
Can’t do that
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75198 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:03 pm to
They pass hundreds of bills annually. The serious mix in with the less serious all the time. One is not done exclusively and then another, etc.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
9173 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:56 pm to
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Seperation of church and state and all of that jazz.


What statute covers this? The 1A prohibits congress from establishing a religion or prohibiting the free exercise of religion, so clearly this does not apply in this situation.

I'm all for going with the spirit of the law instead of the letter of the law, but consistency is required. If this is a violation of the constitution, then birthright citizenship and counting illegals in the census is as well. People who argue that anchor babies are legal quote the text of the law while ignoring the spirit of the law, even though the guy that wrote the law also wrote that it did not apply to illegals.

So, why the insistence on ignoring the letter of the law in this case but not others?
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