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re: FBI Had Authorized Deadly Force in Politically-Motivated Raid on Mar-a-Lago (Aug 2022)

Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by Bayoutigre
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:18 pm to
its all fake,we are watching a movie
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:20 pm to
“It’s all fake” says the bot.


I don’t even know what a bot is. Surreal af
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:29 pm to
there are a lot of friends and family that have seen the fbi use of deadly force and its not good
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:34 pm to
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If the FBI raided Obama, Bush, Clinton right now with shoot to kill orders what would you say?

While this whole charade is political theater, there was no "shoot to kill" order. When we engage in these kinds of hysterics, it just makes us look stupid.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:47 pm to
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 9:53 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:57 pm to
First, Ruby Ridge.

Then Waco.

Imagine if we had Mar a Lago.

An fbi sniper could have shot Barron in the head through a window and maybe a couple Secret Service agents end up dead.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:01 pm to
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You never know what these people are capable of after Jan 6


I estimate most of your six upvotes are like mine but I’m pretty sure at least a couple of them are 100% serious agreement.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
8957 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:01 pm to
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Trump obviously has experience running coup attempts remotely


LMAO. You got to work on your troll game.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:01 pm to
They weren't just prepared to murder Trump. They had no qualms about murdering Secret Service.

I think it was someone in the FBI at a more tactical level that made sure the raid happened while Trump was away and tipped off whatever Secret Service was present so that there would be no violence. But at the highest levels, they were apparently trying to order a hit and hoping the Secret Service might resist.

Now we know they are involved in gain of function. And we know they collided with the Wuhan Lab. And we know that there was a lab leak.

But how do we know they weren't instrumental in said leak. I think it's probable.

That's millions of lives right there.

Look at the terror attack in Moscow. Women and children gunned down. Are we sure that doesn't lead back to them?

The point is that the leadership on the left is psychopathic. They are very dangerous. We can argue about who exactly is calling the shots. But I would think that the enforcement wing is the CIA. And we all know that the CIA will do anything.

So don't underestimate the left. I hear people scoff at them and brag about how if it came to violence, they would be routed. But I'm not so sure.

They are relentless. Nothing gets in the way of their agenda. There is no method they won't use.

Look at Ukraine. Look at how dismissive they are about the nuclear threat. Look at how their judges blatantly disregard the law.

They are shameless. After being exposed for orchestrating the Russia hoax, they immediately orchestrated election fraud.

Shameless, murderous, relentless. Extremely well organized.

This is a scary evil opponent.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 11:04 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:41 pm to
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The FBI would have loved for it to have come to that.

Very powerful people seem to be trying very hard to provoke violence from the right going back to 2018 or so.

The who and why are the real questions.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
18944 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:07 am to
The order contained a "policy statement" that said "law enforcement officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force when necessary". That's not just for this warrant service. That's on any random Tuesday for any agent in any field office. It wasn't written for this operational order or for Trump specifically.

In the first page that you posted, "engage" does not mean shoot or engage in combat with. The "per existing liaison relationships" should have given that away.

Once again, while this whole thing is bullshite, FBI (who I have little respect for) did not go there to have a gun fight with Trump's Secret Service detail.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:19 am to
No two searches should be approached the same in these regards. I mean, if they were tasked with the same type search of a governor’s office, would you think they’d be ordered to go low key with street clothes and firepower planned presuming the same possibility of violence and resistance as they would a known armed drug distributor? Definitely not because the situation is properly planned according to risk with an strong consideration given to themselves avoiding their own potential for “accidentally” provoking an otherwise avoidable incident.

This situation called for much more discretion, yet they went to the far opposite end. Intentionally. It’s yet another blatant disregard for their overall sworn duties and obligations. Storm troopers raiding a peaceful family home with hopes of provoking some sort of spectacular incident. Those who composed the plans and issued the orders are subhuman.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14935 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:32 am to
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This situation called for much more discretion, yet they went to the far opposite end. Intentionally. It’s yet another blatant disregard for their overall sworn duties and obligations. Storm troopers raiding a peaceful family home with hopes of provoking some sort of spectacular incident. Those who composed the plans and issued the orders are subhuman.

THis s for everyone who postedin this thread.

If the FBI authorized deadly force and had medical support on the scene -- why wasn't there violence?
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:47 am to


Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:50 am to
Same reason there wouldn’t have been at the aforementioned governor’s office or for illustrative purposes let’s even say a convent - there was never gonna be any violence to begin with. Not in this particular scenario under these particular circumstances involving these particular people. They took machine guns to a pillow fight.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
20599 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:53 am to
Deadly force was authorized for the same "crime" that Biden couldn't be prosecuted for because he was too old.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:55 am to
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The TDS clowns would have loved for it to have come to that.


FIFY
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2847 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 1:05 am to
Yet republicans vote to build a new FBI building….
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:01 am to
You are a POS.
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