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re: Explain to me why progressives are so hung up on gun grabbing?

Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:54 am to
Posted by maizegoblue
Florida
Member since Jan 2011
1803 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:54 am to
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Biggest school massacre in history was a bombing someplace like Michigan or Minnesota at the turn of the 1900s.

Do we ban fertilizer because some a-hole can make a bomb?



Bath, Michigan. You never hear about that one for some reason.

The Bath School disaster, also known as the Bath School massacre,[Note 1] was a series of violent terrorist attacks[10][11][12][13] perpetrated by Andrew Kehoe upon the Bath Consolidated School in Bath Charter Township, Michigan, United States, on May 18, 1927. The attacks killed 38 elementary schoolchildren and 6 adults, and injured at least 58 other people. Prior to his timed explosives detonating at the Bath Consolidated School building, Kehoe had murdered his wife, Nellie Price Kehoe, and firebombed his farm. Arriving at the site of the school explosion, Kehoe died when he set off explosives concealed in his truck.

Kehoe, the 55-year-old school board treasurer, was angered by increased taxes and his defeat in the April 5, 1926, election for township clerk. He was thought by locals to have planned his "murderous revenge" after that public defeat. Kehoe had a reputation for difficulty on the school board and in personal dealings. In addition, he was notified in June 1926 that his mortgage was going to be foreclosed upon. For much of the next year until May 1927, Kehoe purchased explosives and secretly hid them both on his property and under the school.

On the day of the disaster, Kehoe set off almost simultaneous explosions at his farmstead and at the Bath Consolidated School. His devices destroyed the farm's buildings and ripped through the north wing of the school building. As rescuers began working at the school, Kehoe drove up to the schoolyard and triggered an explosion in his shrapnel-filled truck. The blast killed Kehoe plus four other people, and also injured bystanders.

During the rescue and recovery efforts, searchers discovered an additional 500 pounds (230 kg) of unexploded dynamite and pyrotol in the south wing of the school that had been set to go off at the same time as the initial explosions in the north wing; Kehoe had apparently intended to destroy the entire school and kill everyone in it.

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Posted by johnadams1776
florida
Member since Jun 2021
479 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 12:03 pm to
you need to quit calling them progressives and called them what they are. COMMUNISTS!, disarm to populace see
examples: stalin, mao, fidel, etc.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260255 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 12:05 pm to
Because they cant blame the actual perp and be called racist
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15300 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 12:08 pm to
The deep state is obsessed with gun grabbing. They just have to run it through that corridor.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33885 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 12:47 pm to
It's in the playbook and is a necessity to achieve further goals.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
5985 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 12:50 pm to
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What's the deal? What is the motivation?


Because they are urban-dwelling idiots that have no clue how people outside of their bubble exist.

Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
678 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 12:58 pm to
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What's the deal? What is the motivation? Does railing against the 2A get you that much more donor money? Why does the 2A excite them so much?


I can illustrate easily why. They pushed the limits on Americans during Covid and the whole push to vaccinate. In Australia they took 5 steps past those limits. What was the difference. We have guns. Australians don’t.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260255 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:01 pm to
Democrats want to be European so bad until they are around black folks and Jews

This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 1:01 pm
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:06 pm to
The ONLY reason that someone would want to take guns away from law-abiding citizens is that the gun-grabbers want to do things to the law-abiding citizens that would make the law-abiding citizen want to shoot the gun-grabbers.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2156 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:13 pm to
Cause they want you rounded up, and eventually killed, with little threat of harm to themselves. Same as predators picking the weakest out of a herd.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51561 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:18 pm to
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Explain to me why progressives are so hung up on gun grabbing?


Because, to Leftists, those who commit firearm violence (except for cops) are victims of some sort of unjust/oppressive treatment (even if that is actually just the understanding that something happened to someone else at some other time, the stress such a thought brings them makes them a victim... somehow). As victims, they are considered noble by Leftists. This means (to Leftists) they are noble beings being victimized by firearms through no fault of their own (because "noble").
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9153 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:19 pm to
I think their are two parts to this.
1. The ones at the top who are pushing these Marxist idea's(think Zoro's and the organizations and politicians he funds) want to destroy the freedoms and idea's America is based on in order to install a socialist form of rule.

2. The average citizens are just pushing what is pushed down to them. Many of the active members are young having been fed these Marxist idea's for many years embrace it like a religion. They shout and scream their justifications for it all, abortions, men can be women, take from the rich and give to all, ect, thinking they can make a difference.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28331 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:20 pm to
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In truth, the vast majority of the Left are just naive do-gooders who do not think about the second-, third- and fourth-order results of their desire to "stop gun violence."


Agreed.

The "world domination" thought process would only be after the fact.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39423 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:42 pm to
Regular leftists voters have bought into the fear mongering over guns just like they allowed themselves to be pumped full of experimental vaccines and locked in their houses. Just like they stood there, barking like seals, as the socials started silencing political dissent in the name of "disinformation".

The elites know what they want out of these policies. More power and more control. They are just very good at fear mongering fake, noble motives to the rabble.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13342 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:42 pm to
I think it is pretty obvious. After 247 years of gun ownership, almost 200 years of that unfettered gun ownership, the current government agenda makes THEM believe they are going to do things that would make us want to shoot them.

Whether they admit it or not, they know the 2A is the last and really only bastion left against absolute tyranny.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12167 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:52 pm to
The last obstacle to a Global, tyrannical government is the American gun owner is one reason.

Our government is outgunned and they don’t like it.

Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13342 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:58 pm to
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The consensus HERE will be that the Left is evil incarnate and that this is part of some grand, nefarious scheme of world domination. Probably involves a bald man with a white cat on his lap. The cat is probably wearing a diamond collar.

In truth, the vast majority of the Left are just naive do-gooders who do not think about the second-, third- and fourth-order results of their desire to "stop gun violence."



What proof do you have that marxist democrats are just bumblefricks, and not the very same marxists who have destroyed country after country around the globe, in order to re-make it in the marxist/communist mold? Your "truth" is simply your opinion, generously giving marxist democrats every benefit of the doubt, at OUR peril.

I have no doubt where you stand, but you may be confusing the newbies and the ignorant.
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10139 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:59 pm to
i think they like the PERCEPTION of being the ones that want to remove guns..................for now.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
13244 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 3:02 pm to
I’m convinced some of them own shares of online gun and ammunition websites and drum up this talk to pad their pockets. What’s the expression that floated around in some circles around 2010ish- “Obama is the greatest guns salesman in history.”?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22777 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 3:04 pm to
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That explains the politicians. It doesn't explain the regular voter


Some people a just gullible, some are stupid, some are smart etc. The "regular" voter that supports gun grab legislation are brainwashed and believe what they have been told.

I call these people stupid, but honestly it boils down to critical thinking. Critical thinking is not what the world rulers (those above the politicians) want. So it isn't being taught. Any way to discourage it is what is done.

So in a nutshell... ignorance is why people support their own demise.
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