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re: Europe- “you’ll own nothing and be happy”

Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24788 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:47 pm to
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No, that's not what he said

Will money be moved from people’s accounts? Yes.

Is she asking for permission? No.

Can they opt out? No.

Are you going to run around playing semantics games to distract and deflect away from that fact? Definitely.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64750 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:47 pm to
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What is “more effective?” Does that mean riskier?


Yes, it is more risky, and that is a legitimate criticism. But they’re not being forced to do so.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
18185 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:50 pm to
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Where are you getting anything about consent? There is nothing in what she said that indicates the government will force anybody to do anything.


What do you think these ""proposals"" they are talking about are? Sending the people pamphlets on the benefits of capital investment? Holding meetings discussing rates of return? Free financial consultation?

You think the European people don't know how to invest? The concept of equities are above their intellectual abilities?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481541 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:54 pm to
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Is she asking for permission? No.

Can they opt out? No.


Cite your support for these please.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:56 pm to
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Cite your support for these please.
Are you arguing in support of this?
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
11395 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:59 pm to
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this board. Investing in companies and earning a return on those investments is now Communism.


I think the government investing your money without your consent, in the companies of their choice, feels communistic.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481541 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:03 pm to
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Are you arguing in support of this?

In support of what, exactly?

I'm trying to make sure people melting understand what is actually being discussed in OP. We can't discuss the merits of that until everyone engaged stops posting silliness, fantasy, and dishonesty
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481541 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:03 pm to
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without your consent


Link?
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
14448 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:05 pm to
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I think the government investing your money without your consent, in the companies of their choice, feels communistic.


Exactly! Whatcha want to bet that the “companies of their choice” are their buddies Green companies.

This would be nothing but a huge transfer of wealth to further sink Europe.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
41174 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:07 pm to
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That happens when you repeatedly demonstrate that you aren't going to fight for your rights because it might hurt someone's feelings



This is why I never trust any elected official. No matter who it is.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
7482 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:10 pm to
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Can they opt out? No

Well, why do we not connect the dots here.

There is $10trillion in private savings accounts. She estimates they can get $590billion. Since the second number is less than the first, this would point to people being able to opt out.
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 6:11 pm
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:11 pm to
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Yes, it is more risky, and that is a legitimate criticism. But they’re not being forced to do so.


If it’s being done with knowledge and consent of the owner, then I think that’s fine.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
110802 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:12 pm to
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SlowFlowPro


Greetings new poster. Your posting style reminds of Boom33.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
7482 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:14 pm to
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SlowFlowPro



Greetings new poster

You're funny
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80937 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:20 pm to
That's maybe a scintilla better but still shite.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24788 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:21 pm to
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Are you arguing in support of this?


No he's well into his "that's not what's happening" dance using semantics while refusing to condemn the thing being discussed.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64750 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:26 pm to
You people kill me. You’re free to look up the details of these proposals. Or, you could just eat up the bullshite rage bait in the OP. I have a suspicion of what you will choose to do.
Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
932 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:37 pm to
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That happens when you repeatedly demonstrate that you aren't going to fight for your rights because it might hurt someone's feelings


Also happens when you repeatedly demonstrate that you arent going to fight for your rights because you’ve got “too much to lose”.
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 6:38 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
110802 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:41 pm to
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You're funny


I am NOT funny.


I’m hilarious.
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
3198 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:47 pm to
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but this just seems like a way for the banks to utilize the savings money while the consumer will see no difference

Aren't these deposits the way that banks can offer loans to people?

Would it change what the banks had on hand to count towards their loan offerings if $$ was moved to other investments?


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