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re: Europe- “you’ll own nothing and be happy”

Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:03 pm to
Posted by Southernmold
Member since Aug 2026
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:03 pm to
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Are you not American? Very odd way to phrase that.

And why are you bringing up Israel in a thread about the EU seizing savings for reinvestment against the will of the account holder.

Its almost like youre trying to redirect the discussion.




Because our rat pig government still hasn't given me my income tax check. They took that money to give to isreali pigs
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 5:06 pm
Posted by PSS101
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:05 pm to
The Democrats want to bring European socialism here
Posted by Southernmold
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:08 pm to
Better European socialism then to be a kazarian boot licking traitorous American rat scum
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:08 pm to
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this isn't about taking savings for public uses.


You naive if you believe that isn't what their ultimate goal is.

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It's about basically creating a better ROI than savings by securitizing them to invest in private businesses to increase returns.


If you can't see the problem with the government telling ppl where they should invest their own money then you are a lost cause.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:08 pm to
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What do you believe she means by "putting them to use"?


Putting funds into more effective investments than a low-yield savings account.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64750 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:09 pm to
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Ponchy Tiger


You’re just making up scenarios. Focus on the facts.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
3391 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:11 pm to
Politicians have quite the gall. They create the debt. We didn’t yet bear the burden of fixing their screw ups.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:14 pm to
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There is nothing weird about this. It should be viewed as a positive. european needs to change, a this is a big step in a positive direction for that change. Except - as has been noted, they have been coming up with proposals like this for decades and it never seems to stick.


Agreed.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
56673 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:14 pm to
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Obama floated the idea of raiding 401k accounts.

It’s one way to pay off the debt.


The government would have to take nearly every dollar sitting in the retirement accounts of all Americans to pay off the US debt.

Unbelievable!!!!
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
18185 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:15 pm to
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It's about basically creating a better ROI than savings by securitizing them to invest in private businesses to increase returns.


Sooo essentially taking the money and doing what the owners didn't want to do with it.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64750 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:15 pm to
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Sooo essentially taking the money and doing what the owners didn't want to do with it.


No.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:17 pm to
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No


I'm sorry... but transferring them from an account earning just interest to one with more risk in securities and other investments without the consent of the owner is..... what?
Posted by BuckI
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Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:22 pm to
America may do something similar to pay the debt off.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2633 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:23 pm to
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without the consent of the owner


Where are you getting anything about consent? There is nothing in what she said that indicates the government will force anybody to do anything.

If you want it boiled down to simple terms what she is saying is "We need to be more like the USA. The USA is killing us in capital investment while our citizens have little alternative but to keep savings in low interest bank accounts. And our banks themselves are hamstrung in being able to maximally invest in European capital projects and securities.

Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24788 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:23 pm to
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Putting funds into more effective investments than a low-yield savings account.


So you agree theyre taking peoples savings without their consent?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:26 pm to
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So you agree theyre taking peoples savings without their consent?


Holy fricking shite

No, that's not what he said
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:26 pm to
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Putting funds into more effective investments than a low-yield savings account.


What is “more effective?”

Does that mean riskier?

What if a person doesn’t want the government to put his funds into “more effective investments,” as defined by them, does he have the right to keep his investments in a low yield savings account?

Should he have that right?
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:42 pm to


quote:

You’re just making up scenarios. Focus on the facts.



What are these scenarios and facts?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:43 pm to
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What if a person doesn’t want the government to put his funds into “more effective investments,” as defined by them, does he have the right to keep his investments in a low yield savings account?


Where is force a part of this?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64750 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:46 pm to
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I'm sorry... but transferring them from an account earning just interest to one with more risk in securities and other investments without the consent of the owner is..... what?


Where are you getting the without consent portion? It’s giving people a choice.
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