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re: Europe- “you’ll own nothing and be happy”

Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:22 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
77269 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:22 pm to
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You’re free to look up the details of these proposals.

Why on flat Earth would anyone do that?
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2832 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:23 pm to
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What do you think these ""proposals"" they are talking about are?


I have said what they are twice, using the woman's own words. If you cannot read and comprehend, that is on you.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2832 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:34 pm to
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Lacking details on what she's proposing


It is clear what she is proposing - she wants a EU wide "ERISA-qualified" investment system. She wants to give Europeans the choices that Americans have. Most European countries do not have the sort of investment vehicles that we have in the USA. That goes a long way in explaining why so much European assets sits in low-yield savings accounts. She also wants to liberalize how banks operate - again, copying the American model which promotes more domestic investment.

This is not some Maoist/Stalinist idea, it is a desire for Europe to look more like America. She is jealous in one sense, She sees how much more capital investment occurs in the USA. In fact, she hints at that when she talks about how too much investment money flows out of Europe (most definitely the bulk of that is to the USA).
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
31245 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:39 pm to
None of the invaders have any savings.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
23146 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:41 pm to
Europeans are dumb enough to sign over every penny with a smile on their faces.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
65574 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:10 pm to
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Why on flat Earth would anyone do that?


Retards who enjoy their rage bait certainly wouldn’t.
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50594 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:28 pm to
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It is clear what she is proposing - she wants a EU wide "ERISA-qualified" investment system.


The rest of your post MIGHT be accurate, but this is definitely incorrect. If her proposals were "clear", this would be a very different thread. No one on either "side" has provided specifics of what she's proposing, so definitely not clear.

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She sees how much more capital investment occurs in the USA. In fact, she hints at that when she talks about how too much investment money flows out of Europe


The money that she's talking about in the video (sitting idly in EU banks) is not being invested in the US. And I think that "hints at" conflicts with your original statement that her proposals are "clear".
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
17822 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:03 pm to
Sing them songs while you drive them railroad spikes - BOY.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
86186 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:11 pm to
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I'm shocked they didn't open this up with a video of savings accounts in cages


Ooh I’ll create this on Grok later
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 9:12 pm
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
16568 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:16 pm to
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Link?


Yeah because the EU is definitely concerned about the consent of the governed.
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 9:17 pm
Posted by LEOPOLD2
Member since Aug 2026
186 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:19 pm to
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Not shocking, this isn't as bad as the OP's post makes

Um. Looking at what you quoted looks pretty fricking bad
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
16568 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:20 pm to
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I was going to make a similar comparison but it's not 1:1 and would confuse many.


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SlowFlowPro


Your completely unwarranted arrogance (while being largely incorrect well over 50% of the time, might I add) regarding every single topic you’re involved in on this site is so tiresome.

You’re truly a cocksucker.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
65574 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:45 pm to
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No one on either "side" has provided specifics of what she's proposing, so definitely not clear.


You’re free to look them up of corse.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
65574 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:47 pm to
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Your completely unwarranted arrogance (while being largely incorrect well over 50% of the time, might I add) regarding every single topic you’re involved in on this site is so tiresome.

You’re truly a cocksucker.


You seem angry. SFP is correct here. The OP is rage bait bullshite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
486609 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:53 pm to
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Yeah because the EU is definitely concerned about the consent of the governed.

That's not a link
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
51935 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:54 pm to
The Rothchilds wet dream.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
486609 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:55 pm to
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Your completely unwarranted arrogance (while being largely incorrect well over 50% of the time, might I add) r



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You’re truly a cocksucker.

What a strange, hyper-emotional melt.

If you were smart and rational, you'd be pointing out the bullshite in OP, too.

You should be asking yourself which group (if not both) you're a part of to think that embarrassing post was a good idea.

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Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50594 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:32 pm to
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You’re free to look them up of corse.



I did. Did you? She does not provide any details on what she plans to do with those idle savings. But there are context clues in the rest of her speech.

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Our target is to reduce the administrative burden by 25% for all companies and by 35% for SMEs by
2029.


This is the only hint of becoming more "free market" in her entire speech. There are no details. You keep ragging on the ignorance of the people ragging on her, so maybe you have more info? Or do I need to keep digging while you smugly brag about your superior knowledge?

Even if they lower the admin costs of these companies via de-regulation, is that enough to compete with the US's economy? They're still going to be more regulated than the US, and taxed higher. Why would people with idle savings suddenly decide to mass-invest in EU companies if foreign countries offer better returns?

-bunch of talk about trade deficits. That's fine if Europe made things, but they don't. Mostly because of all of the aforementioned issues. The US faces similar issues, but not nearly to the scale of Europe (not just because of taxes and regulations, but also energy costs).

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The third challenge concerns the single market. It is our greatest economic asset.


Read that comment as many times as you need to come up with a reason that her speech was some major free-market shift for the EU.

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The fourth challenge is energy. Nowadays, it is the main factor limiting our competitiveness andindependence. Prices in Europe are still twice or three times higher than in the United States or China....For that reason, we must produce our own low-carbon energy in Europe. Thanks to renewable energy and nuclear energy, morethan 70% of our electricity is already produced from low-carbon sources in Europe.


Outside of France, the EU has been DRASTICALLY cutting down on nuclear power. Solar and wind will not help with the costs that she complains about.

-she also talks about more freedom of movement between EU countries (i.e. freedom of movement from the 3rd world into the EU).


Most of those issues don't directly apply to the OP's topic, but only ~10% of her speech gave a hint of policy that would encourage EU savers to actually invest their money.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
10715 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 10:37 pm to
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It’s one way to pay off the debt.


Only temporarily I’d bet….with the way those frickers in DC spend.

A better way to pay off debt…and keep it that way: Quit spending.

Yeah, that’d be asking too much of them, I know.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
65574 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 6:12 am to
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I did. Did you? She does not provide any details


Do you know how I know that you didn’t actually look them up?
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