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re: Elon Musk says don't go to medical school as surgeons will be obsolete in 48 months.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 10:32 pm to Flavius Belisarius
Posted on 1/10/26 at 10:32 pm to Flavius Belisarius
Although Intuitive is a robotic platform company, they are equally a data/IT company. They have access to all the data points of every surgery performed on the XI and DV5 platforms. They full intend to eventually replace the surgeon. When that happens is anyone’s guess but I cannot imagine it would happen in the next 15 years for the reasons you mention.
Intuitive and not Musk will be the first to reach that goal. 4 years from now is absolutely not attainable.
Intuitive and not Musk will be the first to reach that goal. 4 years from now is absolutely not attainable.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 10:53 pm to TigerV
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Yea, I’m a huge Elon fan, but his timeframes are usually pretty far off. I don’t see it happening in 5 years, 15 maybe.
15 years?
I like him, but this is a laughable quote by Elon. Anyone who went through medical school would agree.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:11 pm to MrLSU
On time and no attitude
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:13 pm to MrLSU
If he said 5-10 I’d believe him. That seems really fast.
It’s pretty wild the medical improvements that are coming.
It’s pretty wild the medical improvements that are coming.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:14 pm to OchoDedos
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They were saying 10 years ago that Radiologists were going to be replaced by AI, but there still there.
Still “unable to completely exclude” the most horrible shite known to man
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:30 pm to NC_Tigah
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That's a swing and a miss
Some downvote you, but your statement is true.
A total dependency upon technology and A.I. by mankind would be a cataclysmic error on myriad levels. There are scenarios such as EMP and Carrington Events that are not only possible but either likely or imminent, that could potentially end most of the world's modern technology in milliseconds.
Even if "not as good" as a machine, there will ALWAYS be a need for men and women that are skilled in surgery and healthcare and every other essential profession. To think otherwise is folly.
The part of Elon that wants man to just step aside and let technology take over, is the part of Elon upon which I will always find myself in opposition and disagreement.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 11:50 pm to APHA
quote:What? If almost nobody has a job, where will the money come from to purchase products and services created or done by AI? Where will the money for a universal income come from?
98% of jobs will be handled by AI and robotics.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:18 am to TigerAxeOK
You sure? Ever since the advent of the smart phone humans have slowly been conditioned to allow their device to think for them.
Even as I type this response, autocorrect is fixing the typos I’m making with my clumsy and inebriated thumb.
The genie is out of the bottle and this trajectory is probably inevitable.
Even as I type this response, autocorrect is fixing the typos I’m making with my clumsy and inebriated thumb.
The genie is out of the bottle and this trajectory is probably inevitable.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:43 am to Trevaylin
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My best info source is chatgpt
Posted on 1/11/26 at 1:00 am to TigerV
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Yea, I’m a huge Elon fan, but his timeframes are usually pretty far off. I don’t see it happening in 5 years, 15 maybe.
100% accurate. It will happen but hes always way too aggressive on the timeframe.
Still, id be terrified if I were 67% through med school
This post was edited on 1/11/26 at 1:00 am
Posted on 1/11/26 at 4:40 am to TigerAxeOK
quote:That's valid, but it's a different issue.
The part of Elon that wants man to just step aside and let technology take over ...
We're no where remotely close to the point Musk describes, nor does he fully understand what he's talking about. Surgeons don't do years of post-medschool work to learn how to cut things open and sew things up. Dr. John McDonald, namesake of the LSU Transplant Center, use to say "I can train a monkey to do surgery. It is all the other aspects of the field that require a well-trained doctor."
I suspect Elon is addressing the "monkey" part.
But even in that instance, and where we are already doing Da Vinci Robotic Surgery (which could be AI assisted/facilitated), we're no where near surgeon obsolescence. We'll be flying pilotless passenger jets, and seeing robots for medical checkups, before that happens.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 4:51 am to OchoDedos
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They were saying 10 years ago that Radiologists were going to be replaced by AI, but there still there.
Yep. There was a guy that went to big conference loan about 2015 or 2016 and said Radiology had five years. People ate that stuff up. Clearly he was wrong.
Elon has a long track record of promising things can happen faster than he can produce.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 5:30 am to MrLSU
Best medicine in the world will be free? So it's just going to produce itself and give itself away?
I don't know why anyone listens to this guy.
I don't know why anyone listens to this guy.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 6:23 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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I asked if they run the data through a computer for analysis. She said that would never happen.
She is foolish if she believes that.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 6:32 am to Warboo
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With ai escalating at the rate of light speed. I will bet on Elon rather than you.
Elon is way wrong on the timeframe, as he always is, but AI robots will certainly take the place of most doctors eventually.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 6:33 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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And then medical doctors become a threatened constituency for the democrats to take care of. They should form a union.
Effectively they already have it. They keep supply short so that salaries remain high.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 6:39 am to MrLSU
I’ve had both knee replaced. One by a human and the latest by robot. Both went well but the robotic one was smoother and recovery quicker. The orthopedic surgeon said he would only do robotic surgery going forward.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 6:45 am to Metaloctopus
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Best medicine in the world will be free? So it's just going to produce itself and give itself away?
I don't know why anyone listens to this guy.
Airplane flights and car ownership used to be only for the very rich. Now they’re ubiquitous.
Same with libraries, computers, and so on.
Accessible to everyone for relatively cheap.
With continuous and accelerating technological advancements, great medical care will be there too. For cheap. It’s already on the way.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 6:46 am to Smeg
quote:Unless the Company's AI behind the robot was censuring speach, not following science, and working for the FBI during Covid.
I'll take a robot over a DEI doctor any day.
In other words, Google, Apple, Microsoft, Meta (Facebook) and Twitter.
Amazing, the ONLY tech giant in that space who didn't ... Open AI, and you probably know the reason... only 6 years ago, no one imagined this company's tech was possible.
The first hint... Googles research project (and Google WAS far behind Open-AI until just months ago) was sentient said fired engineer..
Also, note when Tucker had him on his (now canceled ... h'mmm) show, what he says about the company working to ensure Donald Trump is not re-elected 2020
We'll we know how that turned out.
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A former Google engineer claimed the Silicon Valley tech giant has "very biased people running every level of the company" who are going all-in to ensure President Donald Trump doesn't win reelection in 2020.
Ex-Google engineer and tech whistleblower Kevin Cernekee, who was fired from the company in June 2018 for misuse of company equipment, said Google is trying to "influence" the 2020 election process against Trump. Speaking with Fox News' Tucker Carlson Friday evening, Cernekee became the latest former Big Tech employee to accuse the search giant of rampant internal political bias.
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