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re: Elon: DOGE probably won’t find $2 trillion in federal budget cuts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:47 am to Stealth Matrix
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:47 am to Stealth Matrix
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Hit us with your best shot.
Maintain SS and Medicare payroll tax rates and incorporate them into the general fund, and slash outlays in both programs in half. Use the other half towards the deficit.
Cut Medicaid in half
Cut military spending by 25%
That's roughly $2T. Just so you know, that draconian set of measures will just get us net positive in terms of spending (depending on how 2024 shakes out, it may be right at neutral). The interest on our debt would still be growing every year.
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:48 am to momentoftruth87
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So if Ron would have won, he wouldn’t have been a populist garnering all the votes and he then wouldn’t be considered small govt? J
What does someone who I didn't ultimately support for President have to do with this thread?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:48 am to Y.A. Tittle
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You think Roy and Massie are against this approach?
Hes trying a gotcha on you "small gov liars" who were for the debt limit increase so Orange wouldnt have to fight Schumer and the shiteheads in March
All because the circus clowns of Roy and Massie fought against it
It all boils down to his severe TDS
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:49 am to momentoftruth87
Its such a lazy arse shot, I'm surprised the Ron loyalists take it.
As if you would have gotten ANY waste reduction plans with literally any other candidate. AT best, you would have gotten a few budget cuts or temporary spending freezes amounting to almost nothing.
As if you would have gotten ANY waste reduction plans with literally any other candidate. AT best, you would have gotten a few budget cuts or temporary spending freezes amounting to almost nothing.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 8:50 am
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:50 am to Y.A. Tittle
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You think Roy and Massie are against this approach?
They obviously were against the latest CRs that MAGA types created an internal civil war over, leading a faction of that MAGA civil war to call them "RINOs", in absolute peak irony.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:50 am to SlowFlowPro
That’s not what I asked.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:51 am to Vacherie Saint
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Its such a lazy arse shot, I'm surprised the Ron loyalists take it.
What does this have to do with me, a noted non-"Ron loyalist"?
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As if you would have gotten ANY waste reduction plans with literally any other candidate.
Did you see the RINOS actually putting forth real legal effort in this area?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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What does someone who I didn't ultimately support for President have to do with this thread?
Who did you support?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:52 am to Y.A. Tittle
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That’s not what I asked.
They want lower spending.
MAGA types do not, when it comes down to it, no matter how often they proclaim to be "small government conservatives" and melt over spending (like Ukraine)
The lone exception is SDV, who has always called these people out as not reflecting the actual values of MAGA (here and with abortion). He's no hypocrite
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:52 am to momentoftruth87
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Who did you support?
Montgomery Brewster
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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What does this have to do with me
I wasnt talking to you, attention whore.
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a noted non-"Ron loyalist"?
Oh, we know.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:53 am to SlowFlowPro
It's amazing that you hated Gaetz for demanding at least 12 appropriation bills from each committee to reconfigure the budget process instead of the current continuing resolution process. The entire point of passing separate appropriations out of committee was to identify unpopular cuts and spending, i.e., have the information available to hold our congressmen accountable.
But you fought hard for business has usual, CRs and all in your beloved debt based system.
But you fought hard for business has usual, CRs and all in your beloved debt based system.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:53 am to momentoftruth87
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Who did you support?
He voted Kanye aka Kamala
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:53 am to Vacherie Saint
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I wasnt talking to you, attention whore.
That's irrelevant.
Were you talking about me?
If so, why lie?
If not, why derail the thread with irrelevancy?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:54 am to SlowFlowPro
Had he only cashed in on those 0.00000001% odds of winning the presidency, he would have surely hit that 2T goal!
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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And we only probably have 2 years to make progress, so cutting even $500B (which is a fantasy in itself) is like farting in a hurricane.
If 2 years of progress starts to show meaningful results, why wouldn't more people turn their vote away from democrats and their control of DC?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:55 am to GumboPot
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It's amazing that you hated Gaetz for demanding at least 12 appropriation bills
No, I said his strategy was poor and I was proven right. The full circle with the same defenses of KM being used on MAGA Mike last week was literally perfection.
I told you that his plan would not result in 1 appropriation bills, and I was proven right
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But you fought hard for business has usual, CRs and all in your beloved debt based system.
And now you're just lying.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
There is a difference between what will be recommended to be cut by DOGE and what our good friends in congress will actually vote in favor of cutting. It’s not just govt payroll potentially being cut, it’s stupid green scam initiatives, subsidies to fund illegal immigrants, earmarked entitlements, etc.
There is 2 T there to be cut but it’s very unlikely that much in cuts will be passed by congress.
There is 2 T there to be cut but it’s very unlikely that much in cuts will be passed by congress.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:56 am to tigerfan 64
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If 2 years of progress starts to show meaningful results, why wouldn't more people turn their vote away from democrats and their control of DC?
The same reason why MAGA is for big spending now: they won't like the effects of less spending and they won't perceive that as "meaningful results"
We are only talking about the government spending angle and not the impact this would have on the day to day lives of Americans (hint: there would be a LOT of pain and economic malaise).
That's why we're $30T+ in debt, currently.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:57 am to SlowFlowPro
Jesus, kid.
Not everything is about you.
Not everything is about you.
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